How to do a proper Stage 1
#11
'09 1200C, stock mufflers opened 3/4" and stock breather opened up with a dremel.
Base line dyno - 60.21 hp @ 5800 rpm 70.42 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm 14.03 A/F
M-TTS tune - 74.67 hp @ 6200 rpm 75.99 ft lbs @3200 rpm 13.01 A/F
So I spent $400 on the M-TTS including dyno time and $6.95 for a 3/4" x 3' round stock.
I gained 15 hp and 5 ft lbs for a cost ratio of $27 per HP
That's pretty cheap HP however the HP cost will greatly increase for any additional gains.
Base line dyno - 60.21 hp @ 5800 rpm 70.42 ft lbs @ 3500 rpm 14.03 A/F
M-TTS tune - 74.67 hp @ 6200 rpm 75.99 ft lbs @3200 rpm 13.01 A/F
So I spent $400 on the M-TTS including dyno time and $6.95 for a 3/4" x 3' round stock.
I gained 15 hp and 5 ft lbs for a cost ratio of $27 per HP
That's pretty cheap HP however the HP cost will greatly increase for any additional gains.
#14
I'm running the stage one download on mine and it runs great. I don't think you'll see enough of a difference to spend the extra $$$ on the 883 for a custom tune. You guys with the high dollar dyno tunes, what kind of numbers did your bike put down on the dyno? And what was the total amount spent; $400 for SERT and then $100+ for dyno tuning for how many HP over the canned stage 1 download?
#15
We really need a before/after comparison between the stage 1 download and the custom dyno tune.
I bought my Iron with all the mods already done to it. When I took it to the dealer for an oil change, they tried to tell me that I really "wanted" a SERT and custom dyno tune. He couldn't guarantee gains though just a "better" running bike. They also tried the same crap with me with my SG and the PC-V with AT I installed on it.
If I had $30K in the Iron it may be a different story, but if I had half that in it, I'd already be crazy.
I bought my Iron with all the mods already done to it. When I took it to the dealer for an oil change, they tried to tell me that I really "wanted" a SERT and custom dyno tune. He couldn't guarantee gains though just a "better" running bike. They also tried the same crap with me with my SG and the PC-V with AT I installed on it.
If I had $30K in the Iron it may be a different story, but if I had half that in it, I'd already be crazy.
#16
We really need a before/after comparison between the stage 1 download and the custom dyno tune.
I bought my Iron with all the mods already done to it. When I took it to the dealer for an oil change, they tried to tell me that I really "wanted" a SERT and custom dyno tune. He couldn't guarantee gains though just a "better" running bike. They also tried the same crap with me with my SG and the PC-V with AT I installed on it.
If I had $30K in the Iron it may be a different story, but if I had half that in it, I'd already be crazy.
I bought my Iron with all the mods already done to it. When I took it to the dealer for an oil change, they tried to tell me that I really "wanted" a SERT and custom dyno tune. He couldn't guarantee gains though just a "better" running bike. They also tried the same crap with me with my SG and the PC-V with AT I installed on it.
If I had $30K in the Iron it may be a different story, but if I had half that in it, I'd already be crazy.
EDIT--I was reviewing my bill and realized the $310 service bill also included installation of the Progressive front spring and rear shocks--so my numbers are skewed higher than they should be if you try to figure the cost per hp/tq.
Last edited by WDHGS; 06-14-2010 at 09:07 AM.
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