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Old 05-10-2010, 09:36 PM
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Ok, so I bought a 1200 Custom last month. It's a leftover 2009 that was sitting at the dealer since 01/2009. Picked it up with 11 miles on it, there's just over 200 now. It's running a bit rough at low speeds. A little hesitation and slight jerking in 2nd at around 30. I'm thinking it's just bad gas or maybe a set of plugs (some gas additive maybe (STA-BIL), I've put premium in it). The Harley dealer I bought it at is close to where I work which is an hour away. My question is, should I put a set of plugs in it and see what happens or just take it back to the dealer and lose it for a few days (potentially)? I know the easy answer is take it back to the dealer, but being an hour away throws a "wrench" into it.

One last question..... EXHAUST. I don't have a bunch of cash to lay out on slip ons or a new system and I've read a lot about removing baffles or drilling holes etc.... Opinons and advice welcome! I would rather not void the warranty though....
 
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:05 PM
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Take it to the dealer....sportys are a little rough and a tiny bit of "put puttin" it 30mph I think is normal. I know for example that a BT doesn't feel the same as a sporty..much smoother.

Strip the baffles out of ur stock mufflers is $$ is an issue. I'm the cheapest person alive and that's what I did. Sounds mean as hell.
 
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Old 05-10-2010, 10:36 PM
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prob easy fix, but since your dealer is near work the easiest fix is to take it back... its under warranty so should be no cost anyway
 
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:10 AM
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It will buck if your not running enough RPMS. Lugging the motor is the worse thing you can do for it.
 
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You're doing the right things (premium fuel, stabilizer) & it still runs rough - take back to dealer for a look. Could be something in the EFI, or lines causing the motor to either be lean, or rich. I'd expect this on a carb bike, but not FI & changing plugs won't do anything (wasted $$$). When it's under OEM warranty - let the experts take a look.

IRT your exhaust - I wouldn't recommend removing, or drilling the baffles. Look into an after-market exhaust (i.e. V&H straight shots), or baffles (BCT). Your engine requires back-pressure & modifying your stock system could result in poor performance, or engine damage. See if you can locate something in the for sale section(s) on these forum sites, or eBay, CraigsList...etc. Good Luck!
 
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It will buck if your not running enough RPMS. Lugging the motor is the worse thing you can do for it.
Yup, I'm willing to bet that's the issue as well.
 
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Old 05-11-2010, 08:30 AM
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agreed on lugging. i use to putt around like that on my 06 heritage. but the 1200c doesn't like to do that it wants to go.

i always have ran seafoam in a tank of gas every so often and it has stabilizer in it too. great stuff and will keep everything in great working order.
heres an old review from bike world.

Sea Foam Carburetor & Fuel Injection Cleaner



by "Burn" for webBikeWorld.com
wBW Reviews Home | User Comments (Below)
I'm probably the only person in the world who can't wait for the next oil thread in my motorcycle discussion group. I love 'em!
Motorcyclists who know better than the manufacturer giving all sorts of advice to newbies on which oil to use. It never ceases to amaze me how much myth, legend and pure B.S. surrounds the whole issue of motorcycle engine oil.
I've run into owners who ride no more than 3,000 miles per year obsessing over ten-buck-per-quart oil bottled by some obscure refinery.
The smart rider knows there's one answer and one answer only to the motorcycle oil question. It's in the owner's manual. Do what they say, change it when they tell you to, and you're golden.
You've probably deduced by now that I am not a big fan of fancy oils, additives and other magic potions. So what am I doing writing an article about Sea Foam?
Well, it's a long story...
We recently acquired a 1998 Triumph Tiger "Steamer" to play with. The bike is in like-new condition, only 1,900 miles away from factory fresh. The paint, seat, accessories and trim look like they did on the day it left Hinckley, as it should be with so few miles on the clock.
But there's a flip side to that 1,900 miles. The bike has basically sat around for seven-odd years with stale gas crusting up the insides. We changed the oil (using the owner's manual recommendations, of course!) and filter, changed the molasses that passed for brake and hydraulic clutch fluid, and replaced the hard-as-rock original Metzeler Tourance tires.
I drained and refilled the fuel tank and threw in a can of dry gas and a bottle of Techron just for luck. The bike started right up, and actually didn't run all that bad, considering. But lots of stumbles, hesitation and general wheeziness indicated a definite carburetion problem.
A peek inside the airbox exposed an air filter that must have played home to a family of mice. Triumph engineering calls for an entire new airbox assembly instead of a simple air filter replacement, so a new $60.00 airbox with filter was installed. The bike ran better but still stumbled and hesitated, most noticeable when first rolling on the throttle or on light acceleration from 3,000 to 4,000 RPM.
I didn't relish the thought of ripping apart the bodywork again for a carburetor cleanout, so I looked up a mechanic who I know and trust to offer him the job. I was surprised when he recommended that we put a can of Sea Foam through it and run it for a hundred miles or so -- I figured he wasn't interested, and that was his way of giving us the brush-off.
I'm not a fan of any of these additives, but I ran the suggestion by a couple of other trusted friends and they sang the praises of the stuff, so I figured I'd give it a try. I had no idea why I'd never heard of it before.







Sea Foam Motor Treatment has been around since 1942, and was originally developed to remove varnish in carburetors in outboard engines. So the product has been around virtually forever, and is now used as a fuel injector cleaner, carburetor cleaner and all-around cleaner for anything touched by gasoline or diesel fuel. It's also claimed to be a fuel stabilizer, an engine top lube, dry gas and de-icer.
The manufacturer claims that it "cures hesitations, pinging and rough idle". It carries a money-back guarantee, so what's to lose?
The instructions are a bit confusing, because there are so many different uses for the stuff, but I went with the high side of the recommendations and poured half of a can (8 oz.) in the Tiger's fuel tank when I filled up with Ultra. It didn't do much at all for the first tank, and I pretty much walked around with the "I told you so" grin for a few days.
I had half of the can left, so I dumped it in at the next fill up. I rode around for about 50 miles and still didn't notice any difference, so I parked the bike for a couple of days in the garage while I worked up the motivation to rip apart the carbs.
I decided to take the bike out one more time to drain the tank before removal and I sort of noticed right away that the bike was running differently. Lo and behold, the stumbling, hesitation and roughness were gone! Just a tiny hesitation when rolling on the throttle, but it's my understanding that "they all do that", at least the '98 Tigers with the Keihin carbs.
I have to say, the stuff worked. I guess it took some time to work its way through the fuel system while purging all the crud and varnish that have been gathering for the last 7 years in the carbs. Probably letting it sit for a couple of days helped also -- I'm guessing that the Sea Foam had a chance to work its way into the varnish.
Now, there's always the "compared to what" question -- that is, maybe I would have gotten the same results if I just ran a couple of tanks of good quality gas through the bike. Maybe, but something tells me the Sea Foam did the trick.
I paid $2.99 for the 16 oz. can in the local auto parts store, but I've since seen it for as much as $5.99. Still cheap when you consider what it would cost to rip out that bank of carbs...
 
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I dont know about all Sportsters (but from what I hear most) dont like low speeds in first and second gear! I changed pipes, added a high flow air box, and a Cobra tuner, and now it runs much better, but still doesnt LOVE those low speeds. I really think your situation isnt irregular.

Now for the pipes, look around for used slip ons. I hear they can be had for cheap, and there is no need for any other changes to run them.
 
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Well that bike has been sitting a long time and the fuel could be a bit varnished, but like wa said-Sportys are not a super smooth running bike at lower speeds and you might be lugging the engine if you are not in a lower gear. At 30 you should be in second and maybe third, but that's pushing it. If the dealer it close to your work then stop in and see what they say.

If you just want a good sounding set of slip on's then Rush is not bad nor are V&H Strigh Shots.
 
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Old 05-11-2010, 10:28 AM
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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BIKE!!!!! 1st and 2nd are for acceleration, not cruisin or put,put,putin. The throttle is so responsive that every little bump is an exagerated tweek of the throttle especially at low rpm, ie below 2500. Even at higher rpm in the low gears a bump/throttle tweek will want to launch you.

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