What makes sporters good in turns?
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#43
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The biggest mistake is people go barreling off into a turn then decide they are going too fast then try to back off...
Slow up going in and then when you get comfortable with the feel... start accelerating out...
All that being said... slowing up a bike in a turn aint an easy task... you can't see around them.... its kinda like over driving your headlights... you have leave yourself enough time to react to a situation...
It may not be as much fun... but you'll live a lot longer.
A turn you've been around a hundred times can change from one time to the next... gravel... leafs... dead animals even stopped cars can be just out of your vision... then all of a sudden you're on top of them...
Like I said... do what you are doing... you'll be fine...
Charlie D.
#44
Steeper rake (30.1 on XL1200C vs 32 on a FLSTC).
Shorter wheelbase (60.4 on XL1200C, 66.9 on FLSTC).
Lower (4.4" ground clearence on XL1200C, 5.1" on FLSTC).
Weight (562 lbs XL1200C vs 672 lbs for FLSTC).
The XL1200C can turn in a lot shorter radius turn.
Turns go to the Sportster.....
Shorter wheelbase (60.4 on XL1200C, 66.9 on FLSTC).
Lower (4.4" ground clearence on XL1200C, 5.1" on FLSTC).
Weight (562 lbs XL1200C vs 672 lbs for FLSTC).
The XL1200C can turn in a lot shorter radius turn.
Turns go to the Sportster.....
#46
One thing I am surprised nobody mentioned is that new tire have a "slick" coating on them that needs to be worn off before trying any hard core turns. I usually use sand paper to rough up the outer edge. I don't know how many times I forgot and leaned it over a wee bit too far, hit that slick part that hasn't been worn off on the road and the back end broke loose and got squirely. I have ridden all my life and am used to it, but it still puckers my A## everytime it happens.
It is just best to sand the outer edge down to rough it up so that doesn't happen. The bottom line is that going into turns hot and making it out the other side takes a lot of different things, and they all include experience and what to do when a certain situation arises. 99% of the time, I learned the hard way, freaked out and somehow came out the other side ahead, with a TON OF knowledge for the next time something like that happens.
Have fun and don't ride beyond your ability, but sure as hell ride that edge, cause there is NOTHING BETTER than getting that adrenalin pumping and having a crazy fun ride!!!
It is just best to sand the outer edge down to rough it up so that doesn't happen. The bottom line is that going into turns hot and making it out the other side takes a lot of different things, and they all include experience and what to do when a certain situation arises. 99% of the time, I learned the hard way, freaked out and somehow came out the other side ahead, with a TON OF knowledge for the next time something like that happens.
Have fun and don't ride beyond your ability, but sure as hell ride that edge, cause there is NOTHING BETTER than getting that adrenalin pumping and having a crazy fun ride!!!
#48
My bikes and perspective on handling: 08 XL1200R, 08 FLHT, 05 Honda CBR1000RR, 06 Honda 919. #1 - The Sportster is not a sportbike. That being said, what separates it from large touring Harleys is the solidity of the chassis. The big bikes have a pronounced rear suspension wallowing in high speed turns. This is the issue that HD supposedly addressed with the new touring frame in 09. Compared to the FLHT, I can corner, lean and accelerate out of a corner on the Sportster with no rear suspension wallowing. Compared to the Hondas, the Sportster does not "flick" from side to side. Why? Not enough weight distribution on the front end. On the other hand, my wrists don't hurt when riding the Sportster!
#50
I was there on that curve yesterday and the terrain down beyond the guard rail there is rough enough to mess you up if you jumped down there. You know the crappiest thing about that curve is there is always always gravel and sand on the white line in that turn. Someone ought to put a sign up just before that turn as you are heading into Chatsworth.
That scared the crap out of me that day. I felt terrible and was sick. I had gone about 80 miles that day when I came upon that scene.
I hope I described what happened accurately enough. Thank you for the update.
Last edited by Bryan53; 10-20-2008 at 03:48 PM.