Twisty turnies and leaning
#31
#32
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
Don't beat yourself up, Perch. Riding by yourself or with one partner is always better for practice. Group riding in twisties is really not the best way. Sticking to your lane won\\;t give youa chance to learn how to pick the right line in turns & chicanes (cont'd)
#33
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
The MSF Advanced course is the same as the Beginner, but with your bike. Same drills, same "range." I wasn't kidding when I suggested a track day. That's how sportbike riders improve. Now many tracks have cruiser/Harley days. The instructors there will teach you higher-speed handling/safety. Cost is similar to an MSF course. You have done a lot of riding. I'm sure you're better than you admit.
#34
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
Careful braking in turns... I learned the hard way. If I have to, I'll slightly tap the back brake (ever so slightly), I'm much better off leaning more without braking. When I did brake in a turn, I couldn't believe how fast the bike stood up straight, almost threw me highside, and nearly hit a car in the opposite direction, luckily the driver came to a screeching halt.
#36
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
last few time I have been in curves, not really hitting the speed limit, maybe sometimes just barley over it. It felt like my back tire was going to slide out. It would jerk alittle, then I would ease up off the throttle and it would be fine. I know I need to get a back tire, but I am only starting to get in the yellow on the tread gauge.
#37
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
ORIGINAL: Handycam
MSF class says NEVER brake in a turn. Ever. Only before it.
MSF class says NEVER brake in a turn. Ever. Only before it.
#38
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
Perch, I was so there just a few months ago. \\; Then the light came on when it came to countersteering. \\; At first I literally TOLD myself to countersteer, now I just do it. \\; I do slow some before entering into a tight blind corner, then roll on the throttle at the apex of the corner. \\; Something else I do, if there is traffic in front of us, or other bikes... I watch the traffic ahead or watch 4 or so bikes ahead. That helps a lot.
#39
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
ORIGINAL: cosmicHD
That is true for beginners which is why they teach you that in MSF. But trail braking can save your life. It is worth practicing when you feel you are up to it and your skills are sharper. I trail brake with a slight bit of rear brake quite often. The bike does not stand up and high side me - it just tightens up the corner for me. Works great. Remember, you are not full on stomping the brakes, you are trail braking.
ORIGINAL: Handycam
MSF class says NEVER brake in a turn. Ever. Only before it.
MSF class says NEVER brake in a turn. Ever. Only before it.
#40
RE: Twisty turnies and leaning
ORIGINAL: beendad
Best advice I ever got regarding turning was to always look "ahead of" or "through" the turn. If you are concentrated on what is directly in front of your wheel in a turn, you will either short yourself, drifting into the other lane or you will panic and over compensate towards the side you are turning into. Looking through the turn allows you to see your final destination and your bike will cooperate with your body in getting you there!
Best advice I ever got regarding turning was to always look "ahead of" or "through" the turn. If you are concentrated on what is directly in front of your wheel in a turn, you will either short yourself, drifting into the other lane or you will panic and over compensate towards the side you are turning into. Looking through the turn allows you to see your final destination and your bike will cooperate with your body in getting you there!
+1.....Been trying to post this since yesterday, surprised it took so long for someone to mention it!? \\; Looking through the turn will help you get the most out of your lean!