I for one like the looks of the Nightster and the Iron. I think it's silly that they lowered them so much and sacrificed the suspension but they sweet! They do not however, belong on QCB or similar sites without some major work! Bolting on flat black crap is the same as bolting on chrome crap. It doesn't make your ride a bobber or a rat bike. You're trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.