'97 XLH1200 Lower Triple Tree eyelet snapped
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'97 XLH1200 Lower Triple Tree eyelet snapped
I performed an fork oil change on my bike and the lower triple yoke snapped when I torqued the bolt. I purchased the bike from an elderly man who kept it under a shed. I was just going through it to get road ready when the pinch bolt snapped the alumium. My question is if the technical manual torque spec is wrong (30 ft-lbs) or if the cast alumium becomes brittle after 30 years. Note that the area we live in is coastal SC.
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96hugger (08-06-2023)
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It was really tight when I loosened it. It may have been overtightened before. The break looks clean but I found a site about airplane frame aluminum weakening with age in salty environment. I ordered a new one from JP cycles but I don't like aftermarket parts because you don't know what quality controls are used if any. Also I don't like just changing parts without understanding the cause of failure. Navy OCD. Thanks for all ideas. It's helpful.
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John Harper (08-04-2023)
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It was really tight when I loosened it. It may have been overtightened before. The break looks clean but I found a site about airplane frame aluminum weakening with age in salty environment. I ordered a new one from JP cycles but I don't like aftermarket parts because you don't know what quality controls are used if any. Also I don't like just changing parts without understanding the cause of failure. Navy OCD. Thanks for all ideas. It's helpful.
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Jackie Paper (08-07-2023)
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The triple tree brackets are cast, so there is a possibility that air bubbles can form in the finished casting, that especially happens when components are cast from "monkey metal", also known as "pot metal", it is a mixture of what's available in left over low melting point metals which are thrown into the melting pot and cast. The resulting metal has a grainy internal texture which is easily fractured.
I don't think for a moment that H-D would use monkey metal, but I remember the fork axle clamps on Triumph twins and triples were cast from monkey metal and they were frequently cracking. I had to regularly replace the axle clamps on my T140E and T160V due to fractures.
A fractured Triumph front axle clamp.
I don't think for a moment that H-D would use monkey metal, but I remember the fork axle clamps on Triumph twins and triples were cast from monkey metal and they were frequently cracking. I had to regularly replace the axle clamps on my T140E and T160V due to fractures.
A fractured Triumph front axle clamp.
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John Harper (08-07-2023)
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There's no 'monkey metal' in Harley Davidson's aluminum triple trees. That's structural grade aluminum. Now ever material has a limit before cracking. Being a casting, that elastic limit when reached will be unforgiving.
Harley's motto is same as the #1 aircraft carrier and nuclear sub builder is, only good motorcycles, at a profit if we can, at a lost if we must, but only good ships.
Someone overtightenen it, and probably like Dan said tried to close the gap. My model requires anti-seize to that bolt and 35-40. All other 04 Softails 30-35 and no anti-seize
And the lower axle clamp will do the same on a Harley Softail if you don't bottom the front one 15-21 lbs and the rear torques last.
One needs a OEM service manual to SAFELY work on different motorcycles. This kind of stuff can get you worst then dead
Now I am referring to later model Harleys'. Not the bowling ball ones! Interestingly, my friend has a Sporty with the bowling ball logo on the tank. Way over 100k on it. I put the belt and drive pulleys on it long ago.
Still runs like new, other then the 3rd belt and second set of pulleys and maintenance, never missed a lick.
I know, save you the trouble....
Harley's motto is same as the #1 aircraft carrier and nuclear sub builder is, only good motorcycles, at a profit if we can, at a lost if we must, but only good ships.
Someone overtightenen it, and probably like Dan said tried to close the gap. My model requires anti-seize to that bolt and 35-40. All other 04 Softails 30-35 and no anti-seize
And the lower axle clamp will do the same on a Harley Softail if you don't bottom the front one 15-21 lbs and the rear torques last.
One needs a OEM service manual to SAFELY work on different motorcycles. This kind of stuff can get you worst then dead
Now I am referring to later model Harleys'. Not the bowling ball ones! Interestingly, my friend has a Sporty with the bowling ball logo on the tank. Way over 100k on it. I put the belt and drive pulleys on it long ago.
Still runs like new, other then the 3rd belt and second set of pulleys and maintenance, never missed a lick.
I know, save you the trouble....
Last edited by Jackie Paper; 08-07-2023 at 11:39 AM.
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