adjusting for loud pipe and free breathing
#11
09-22-2021, 10:34 AM
Tourer
In the UK the DynoJet Power Vision attracts a stupidly high markup compared to the prices paid in America. If prices were similar I would recommend it straight away. I would also recommend it if you are planning on getting more bikes in the future.
The lowest cost DIY tuner for just a stage 1 is the FP3 here in the UK. There is plug in units that fool the ECM and other piggy back solutions but I don't think they offer anywhere near the flexibility of the PV or FP3.
PV is very powerful. It is a professional unit. FP3 can get the job done but it can be very laborious using a phone to enter data. Both come with starting maps for a lot of different hardware solutions so that makes the initial flash very quick and easy.
You have Warr's in Battersea or Eltham and Lind in Watford or Newmarket to go the HD route or use their services.
You might also want to give Hilltop Motorcycles a call to discuss their solution - Hilltop Motorcycles Ltd 01455 610721
The lowest cost DIY tuner for just a stage 1 is the FP3 here in the UK. There is plug in units that fool the ECM and other piggy back solutions but I don't think they offer anywhere near the flexibility of the PV or FP3.
PV is very powerful. It is a professional unit. FP3 can get the job done but it can be very laborious using a phone to enter data. Both come with starting maps for a lot of different hardware solutions so that makes the initial flash very quick and easy.
You have Warr's in Battersea or Eltham and Lind in Watford or Newmarket to go the HD route or use their services.
You might also want to give Hilltop Motorcycles a call to discuss their solution - Hilltop Motorcycles Ltd 01455 610721
the only thing i would add is that try to find a air filter with an EBS and don’t go for straight pipes if you like the low and mid end power. My bike rarely sees the top of the rev range and I like the low and mid end grunt!
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#12
09-22-2021, 12:32 PM
LOL ..I haven't even started to scratch the tip of the pipe question!
I have a real aversion to pipes with the heatshields....really like the look of drag-pipes.... but I also live in London and like my neighbours......
If I could TIG weld.....I would serioulsy consider just making my own! Pipes I understand work well for what I want, don;t look how I want..while the pipes I love the look of are either ear bleedingly loud, or working better at high revs.
I have a real aversion to pipes with the heatshields....really like the look of drag-pipes.... but I also live in London and like my neighbours......
If I could TIG weld.....I would serioulsy consider just making my own! Pipes I understand work well for what I want, don;t look how I want..while the pipes I love the look of are either ear bleedingly loud, or working better at high revs.
#15
09-23-2021, 05:08 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
LOL ..I haven't even started to scratch the tip of the pipe question!
My recommendation is to get a tuner so you can fix the lean running now with your stock hardware. With the tuner you will be able to fix any idiosyncrasies and tweak as required. As you upgrade hardware you will have the tools to make the changes the EFI system might need.
really like the look of drag-pipes
working better at high revs
Last edited by Andy from Sandy; 09-23-2021 at 05:15 AM.
#16
09-23-2021, 06:31 AM
Tourer
I've been getting by pretty good with my fuel Moto micro they worked with me for a couple of maps You can individually tune it or adjust it to your liking if you know what you're doing and when I brought my bike to a tuner to have it professionally tuned he said he could work with that unit. I kind of want to try the FP3 but I swear there's as many bad reviews as are good reviews people are frustrated with the tuning process.
Were they doing it wrong or they just babies or is the FP3 actually a decent unit? Yes I know there's other threads on the FP3 they're pretty old and like I said a lot of people are complaining about it.
Were they doing it wrong or they just babies or is the FP3 actually a decent unit? Yes I know there's other threads on the FP3 they're pretty old and like I said a lot of people are complaining about it.
#17
09-23-2021, 06:43 AM
Tourer
For the basic DIY enthusiast or one without access the the PV - the FP3 is a good unit.
as for the cribbing- I have started to feel it’s basic human nature to crib. Someone somewhere will have a different outlook and different set of requirements needing a different solution. The key is discerning what works for you and your requirements. I am satisfied with the FP3 at present.
as for the cribbing- I have started to feel it’s basic human nature to crib. Someone somewhere will have a different outlook and different set of requirements needing a different solution. The key is discerning what works for you and your requirements. I am satisfied with the FP3 at present.
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