2021 Sportsters/ New Models
#31
Before my Dyna I had a 1200 custom. It was great. The forward pegs weren't far enough forward to spoil the handling; just enough to make the legs more relaxed. The fat front tire didn't spoil the handling. I didn't have the fork gators (boots), but would have liked them. Here in UK we get a lot of road spray and, if that dries on and hardens on the forks, then that can easily spoil a fork seal; I'd always have a microfibre cloth with me to wipe off the forks after lunch stops etc. The only slight negatives were that it was a bit top heavy, it would sometimes feel short of power during fast overtakes, and at 30mph (our regular town speed limit) first gear felt a bit too low and second gear felt a bit too high. My Dyna Low Rider gives me all the fun of the Sportster without those slight negatives. Nevertheless, I wish I could have justified the expense of keeping two bikes; then I could have kept the Sportster as well, rather than trading it in.
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Synoptic 12 (01-12-2021)
#32
Before my Dyna I had a 1200 custom. It was great. The forward pegs weren't far enough forward to spoil the handling; just enough to make the legs more relaxed. The fat front tire didn't spoil the handling. I didn't have the fork gators (boots), but would have liked them. Here in UK we get a lot of road spray and, if that dries on and hardens on the forks, then that can easily spoil a fork seal; I'd always have a microfibre cloth with me to wipe off the forks after lunch stops etc. The only slight negatives were that it was a bit top heavy, it would sometimes feel short of power during fast overtakes, and at 30mph (our regular town speed limit) first gear felt a bit too low and second gear felt a bit too high. My Dyna Low Rider gives me all the fun of the Sportster without those slight negatives. Nevertheless, I wish I could have justified the expense of keeping two bikes; then I could have kept the Sportster as well, rather than trading it in.
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Graham UK (01-12-2021)
#33
Standard or Sportster?
I have a 2020 Iron 1200, hubby has a 2020 Standard. I've ridden both, my Sporty has NOTHING on the Standard in regards to speed, comfort, handling etc. The sporty you are ON the bike, the Standard you are IN the bike. Get the Standard, the Sportster will beat the crap out of you on anything over an hour ride, while the Standard just cruises comfortably, lol. I am for upgrading to the Slim or the Standard very soon. Hope this helps. JMO🤷
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#34
I have a 2020 Iron 1200, hubby has a 2020 Standard. I've ridden both, my Sporty has NOTHING on the Standard in regards to speed, comfort, handling etc. The sporty you are ON the bike, the Standard you are IN the bike. Get the Standard, the Sportster will beat the crap out of you on anything over an hour ride, while the Standard just cruises comfortably, lol. I am for upgrading to the Slim or the Standard very soon. Hope this helps. JMO🤷
*To be quite honest, if I were 'in' a bike back in the day, I most likely would not be here speaking with you. Irrespective of racing, there's no need to be cemented into the chassis. Just the way I see it. To me, being planted for comfort 'in' a bike is not a benchmark I consider safe at this point in life; just too many people not knowing how to drive, let alone phones, ipads, or any other device: including animals.
Last edited by Synoptic 12; 01-12-2021 at 10:16 AM.
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Pugslycat01 (01-13-2021)
#35
I might as well chip in . I can say in all honesty that even if I were considerably more wealthy than I am , I wouldn't buy a new Sportster . Maybe it doesn't rain in the US but I've seen the numerous reports of low quality paint applied to bare metal that has resulted in rusty tin wear after only one year . Then there's the high incidence of collapsed wheel bearings as well . In addition, there's the issue of styling . Having yearned for a Harley for a few too many decades , I've formed a rigid mental image of what a Harley should look like . The current trend for low bars , "Humpty " little tanks with that hideous piece of plastic hanging out the bottom and everything painted black just grates on my eyes . Then there's the fat front tyres and chopped fenders that spray **** up your back . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder it's true , but nothing in the showroom works for me . I appreciate that these sentiments do nothing to assist in the continued survival of Harley Davidson but there it is .
Last edited by Midpegs; 01-12-2021 at 03:52 PM.
#36
Front mudguard on my bike is rusty on the underside where the bracket runs across.
It is these modern painting methods where they put on the colour coat but it just looks like a dusting coat with no clear and that is it.
I did do a small clean up on it but I shall have to take it off and inspect it again.
It is these modern painting methods where they put on the colour coat but it just looks like a dusting coat with no clear and that is it.
I did do a small clean up on it but I shall have to take it off and inspect it again.
#37
I might as well chip in . I can say in all honesty that even if I were considerably more wealthy than I am , I wouldn't buy a new Sportster . Maybe it doesn't rain in the US but I've seen the numerous reports of low quality paint applied to bare metal that has resulted in rusty tin wear after only one year . Then there's the high incidence of collapsed wheel bearings as well . In addition, there's the issue of styling . Having yearned for a Harley for a few too many decades , I've formed a rigid mental image of what a Harley should look like . The current trend for low bars , "Humpty " little tanks with that hideous piece of plastic hanging out the bottom and everything painted black just grates on my eyes . Then there's the fat front tyres and chopped fenders that spray **** up your back . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder it's true , but nothing in the showroom works for me . I appreciate that these sentiments do nothing to assist in the continued survival of Harley Davidson but there it is .
Last edited by Synoptic 12; 01-12-2021 at 05:38 PM.
#38
Front mudguard on my bike is rusty on the underside where the bracket runs across.
It is these modern painting methods where they put on the colour coat but it just looks like a dusting coat with no clear and that is it.
I did do a small clean up on it but I shall have to take it off and inspect it again.
It is these modern painting methods where they put on the colour coat but it just looks like a dusting coat with no clear and that is it.
I did do a small clean up on it but I shall have to take it off and inspect it again.
Last edited by Synoptic 12; 01-12-2021 at 05:46 PM.
#39
(A) What evidence do you have to support your suppositions? First of all, you toss up a picture of a Sportster (dated). 'Plastic hanging out the bottom'> Please elaborate of what you're speaking. You speak of fat front (tyres)<'English', yet you display a Sportster with a narrow tire. I do not believe the rear fender is chopped, maybe the front slightly but not a concern. I've viewed the 2021 Sportster, namely the 1200 48' and I found no flaws in the paint. As a matter of fact, the clear coat looked very well applied and the mils were plenty sufficient. Most all harley bikes display quality paint. Exactly what years are you referring to, seeing that you posted a picture of a dated Sportster? The least you could have done was to upload the correct bike with the terminology you refer to. 'Yearned', 'Mental' and 'Sentiments' really do not become adjoined to a Sportster or any other model. The realm you are living in is certainly in the past or does not exist. Most all bikes are going to kick up rain, no matter what fenders they wear. We do not ride in the rain but England is known for the abundance of water and clouds in their atmosphere. The 'tin' you allude to appears to be fairly good metal to me, unlike the tin in a unibody car; prove me wrong and I'll believe it. The peanut tank is no sweat off my brow for I'm not commuting to East Chimoke. The fork size has increased to I believe 49mm, so the MoCo is still working to improve. Wheel bearings are really not a big deal, and I never had problems with them. Maintenance is always part of owning any motor vehicle, whether it be a car or motorcycle. "Styling" : The Sportster 48' looks slammed to me, one of the best looking two wheelers out there. If you're contemplating other bikes, seeing that you are near wealthy, why not take a shot and design one. We,by no means are wealthy and remain to stay in the category of poor til the day we're redeemed.
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#40
Crikey , where to begin . Bike one is a brochure picture of the exact bike that I own , an 04 1200 Roadster . Bike 2 is a 2020 Roadster for comparison . My evidence for premature corrosion and failed wheel bearings is all collated from the Sportster Sickness FB group which has 9000 members . I use the expression Tin because it is a frequently used colloquialism for fenders and tanks which I probably acquired from this very forum but I do understand that it is really Steel . I apologize if my use of language that is not "Adjoined" to a Sportster is challenging for you but refuse to limit my vocabulary . What else ? Tell you what , its 8:43 in the morning here . If it's a slow day at work I'll compile a collage of pictures that best illustrate some of the issues raised . In the meantime , here is a picture of MY bike .