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Old 02-04-2019, 03:14 PM
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Default Derby cover removal - stripped heads

I have a 2011 XL1200c and need to change the trans and do a clutch adjustment. Problem is that two of the derby cover screws have stripped heads (I did that). I thought I would drill out those two screws, but I've never done that before.

I have a screw extractor and thought I could use that. And then rethread the hole if necessary.

Am I on the right track, or is there an easier way? Perhaps I can drill the heads off, remove the other screws and slip the cover over the two bad screws and then back them out with my fingers or pliers?

Thanks for any help.

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Old 02-04-2019, 03:22 PM
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See if a metric allen driver will hammer in there. See if a torx bit will hammer in there. See if putting valve grinding paste on the correct size allen driver works. Get a welder and tack the allen driver to the bolt.

If you use a large drill bit you might be able to take the head off but leave a small stub of the screw. When you get the cover off you might be able to cut a screw driver slot in the bit that is left.

When you put it back together those screws need doing up gently to 90 in-lbs or 10Nm. Hardly any pressure at all.
 

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There are several different extractors that should work.
I use one that looks like a reverse direction drill bit and an extractor of the same size. Generally while I am drilling the head off( in reverse) it will grab and the screw and it comes out without using the extrator at all. Any auto parts store should have what you need. Good Luck
 
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DON'T hammer, or weld anything over the old bolts. All you have to do is get a slightly larger (sharp) drill bit and zap off the rest of the head. Once cover's off, grab threads w/pliers and remove...they come off easy, then. For replacements, get SS hex bolts and you'll never have this issue again. Also, don't over-torque them too. Enjoy!
 
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Thanks for the helpful replies! I have some time before I do this project. I'll look for the stainless steel hex screws.

Thanks!
 
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those are T27, not 25......happens to many, maybe a small cutoff wheel, make a slot, then use a Flathead to get old ones out
 
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Originally Posted by Iceman24
DON'T hammer, or weld anything over the old bolts. All you have to do is get a slightly larger (sharp) drill bit and zap off the rest of the head. Once cover's off, grab threads w/pliers and remove...they come off easy, then. For replacements, get SS hex bolts and you'll never have this issue again. Also, don't over-torque them too. Enjoy!
That's what I did on mine.
 
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I've drilled the heads off bolts/screws on a few of mine. I bought a set of left hand drill bits just for that purpose. As previously stated they usually grab and twist the bolt out before I get the head drilled off
 
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If you use a T27 bit you should never suffer that problem again, so having drilled the heads off, as already suggested, I would simply get a couple of genuine replacement screws. Having discovered that possible problem in good time I've owned Harleys with T27 screw-heads for almost 30 years now with zero problems and no replacements required.
 
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Originally Posted by grbrown
If you use a T27 bit you should never suffer that problem again, so having drilled the heads off, as already suggested, I would simply get a couple of genuine replacement screws. Having discovered that possible problem in good time I've owned Harleys with T27 screw-heads for almost 30 years now with zero problems and no replacements required.
Already have a set of OEM screws ready to go. Also have a couple of T27 bits.

Next hurdle is to figure out how to get my motorcycle jack under the bike so I can level it up.

Thanks again to everyone for the helpful responses.
 
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