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Old 07-27-2017, 04:25 PM
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What if the tune has nothing to do with the type of warranty work you need. This violates the Magnusson moss federal warranty act.
 
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Originally Posted by hexnut
What if the tune has nothing to do with the type of warranty work you need. This violates the Magnusson moss federal warranty act.
no idea.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...l#post16451897

MChad cites paragraph 14 here:
https://www.epa.gov/sites/production...avidson-cd.pdf

i can't support it. hearsay as far as i know. worth looking into if one cares. i have no concept of "warranty"
 

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So it sounds like what actually happened was the EPA said "Hey Harley, start regulating your tuned bikes or else were gonna fine your a**"
 
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Originally Posted by hexnut
What if the tune has nothing to do with the type of warranty work you need. This violates the Magnusson moss federal warranty act.
MM isn't worth the paper it's written on once you illegally modify your vehicle to defeat federal EPA standards for street use. Even for race use it pretty much voids any warranty.
 
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Old 07-27-2017, 05:43 PM
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Don't believe that's a true statement. Post your sources. That would only void your engine warranty. Every thing else would be covered. A tune would not have any effect on say the front fork.
 

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I bought the same bike new in 2010...I thought it seemed a might hot as well... but it had been a while since I had bought a new bike (1991 HD).. I had forgotten how tight a new motor is.. I only got 30 miles to the gallon on the first tank of gas...after a couple more tanks of gas the motor loosened up, cooled down and I was getting 40-45 MPG. Get some seat time on it before you start making changes.

 
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Originally Posted by hexnut
Don't believe that's a true statement. Post your sources. That would only void your engine warranty. Every thing else would be covered. A tune would not have any effect on say the front fork.
Have you examined the warranty ? Apparently not , read the Exclusions clause ,#4 , it would be at their discretion.

https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....E/379239/en_US
 
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Federal warranty act says different. They may not win in a court of law. been there.

And that says may not will. Good lawyer can tear that to pieces.
 

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I'm not saying they absolutely won't warrant anything , but I don't see how the MM act can force them to warrant any vehicle that's been modified or altered with "Off Road Use Only" parts that aren't street legal, the warranty is for an OEM vehicle.

MM does cover maintenance performed outside of dealers ,and use of fluids , tires , brake pads , batteries, ect that aren't OEM consumables but meet the OEM specifications . Altering the vehicle with aftermarket parts seems beyond a reasonable expectation of warranty coverage.

2017's a whole new ballgame since Harley got fined and spanked pretty hard by the EPA , for selling and installing Race tuners , exhaust systems , and air cleaners on bikes they knew were going to be used on the street and were not CARB compliant . If it came to it you can bet the MoCo will fight tooth and nail in court , if they cant do it ( there was alot of $$$$ in it for them ) their not going to honor your warranty if you do it. With this vary recent precedent set against Harley , and don't forget VW also , your lawyers gona have to prove why it's legal for you to do it but not the manufacture ,basically overturn the EPA's case against Harley & VW , and beyond that , to also require the MoCo to warranty it.

I'm betting you have a much harder battle than you anticipate.
 
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getting back the OP#s question. Yes you can fit a FP3 to a stock bike.
And if it's not connected full time and you had to take it back to HD for any warranty work putting the stock map back on takes 10 minutes
 


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