Excessive oil blowby: Help needed.
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looks like too muck oil or an over oiled air filter after cleaning.
i've had both issues. the first is usually after a heavy handed oil change. second is usually after a heavy handed filter re-oiling.
i lowered my oil level to just over the halfway point. i stop going gonzo on the air filter oil too (tired of the red mess all over everything).
i've had both issues. the first is usually after a heavy handed oil change. second is usually after a heavy handed filter re-oiling.
i lowered my oil level to just over the halfway point. i stop going gonzo on the air filter oil too (tired of the red mess all over everything).
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WOW!
That is a lot of oil carry-over. Sounds like you've ruled out all the usual suspects.
You have a good handle on it being an intermittent issue...borne out by the occasional smoke out of the exhaust when you were internally vented, and how it did not do it the entire time when you were externally vented.
Could be a plugged drain in the rocker boxes...more likely it is an oil pump related issue...probably the scavenging side.
Of course, being intermittent is the worst kind to deal with, but hopefully the shop is straight up and will get right on it for you.
That is a lot of oil carry-over. Sounds like you've ruled out all the usual suspects.
You have a good handle on it being an intermittent issue...borne out by the occasional smoke out of the exhaust when you were internally vented, and how it did not do it the entire time when you were externally vented.
Could be a plugged drain in the rocker boxes...more likely it is an oil pump related issue...probably the scavenging side.
Of course, being intermittent is the worst kind to deal with, but hopefully the shop is straight up and will get right on it for you.
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#15
WOW!
That is a lot of oil carry-over. Sounds like you've ruled out all the usual suspects.
You have a good handle on it being an intermittent issue...borne out by the occasional smoke out of the exhaust when you were internally vented, and how it did not do it the entire time when you were externally vented.
Could be a plugged drain in the rocker boxes...more likely it is an oil pump related issue...probably the scavenging side.
Of course, being intermittent is the worst kind to deal with, but hopefully the shop is straight up and will get right on it for you.
That is a lot of oil carry-over. Sounds like you've ruled out all the usual suspects.
You have a good handle on it being an intermittent issue...borne out by the occasional smoke out of the exhaust when you were internally vented, and how it did not do it the entire time when you were externally vented.
Could be a plugged drain in the rocker boxes...more likely it is an oil pump related issue...probably the scavenging side.
Of course, being intermittent is the worst kind to deal with, but hopefully the shop is straight up and will get right on it for you.
#16
Well they haven't gotten back to me yet so I may just have to stop by and have a talk. I just don't see how a practically brand new engine could just have problem after problem if it was assembled correctly. I just hope they own up to it and not try to blow smoke up my butt.
As far as riding it this weekend, jump on it! Many times the most simple cures pay off. The overfill oil level is for your position a good way to approach the issue. As long as you keep oil in the reservoir, you can't hurt it. Toss a quart in a pack and take it out. Let it warm up and then put the cheese to it! Providing your ok with the possibility of another oil mess clean up, it may just seek its own oil level and be ok.
#17
I hope your right... A tech related mistake is a tough case to make with any shop. Thus, my mistrust in using them if at all possible. It's a tough spot for many folks, motorcycles, cars, I get that. I sincerely hope for a good outcome for you.
As far as riding it this weekend, jump on it! Many times the most simple cures pay off. The overfill oil level is for your position a good way to approach the issue. As long as you keep oil in the reservoir, you can't hurt it. Toss a quart in a pack and take it out. Let it warm up and then put the cheese to it! Providing your ok with the possibility of another oil mess clean up, it may just seek its own oil level and be ok.
As far as riding it this weekend, jump on it! Many times the most simple cures pay off. The overfill oil level is for your position a good way to approach the issue. As long as you keep oil in the reservoir, you can't hurt it. Toss a quart in a pack and take it out. Let it warm up and then put the cheese to it! Providing your ok with the possibility of another oil mess clean up, it may just seek its own oil level and be ok.
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Could be a plugged drain in the rocker boxes...more likely it is an oil pump related issue...probably the scavenging side.[QUOTE]
I'm thinking like DK. Plugged drain in rocker boxes, or oil pump needs adjusted. Pop your lifter tubes and see if you can see any debris or a clogged drain hole. I had the same problem with mine shortly after I bought it, though not as bad as you describe. When I rebuilt the camchest, I replaced the umbrella valves and installed the upgraded oil pump. Haven't had a problem since. Good luck with finding a solution, puking oil sucks!!!!
Could be a plugged drain in the rocker boxes...more likely it is an oil pump related issue...probably the scavenging side.[QUOTE]
I'm thinking like DK. Plugged drain in rocker boxes, or oil pump needs adjusted. Pop your lifter tubes and see if you can see any debris or a clogged drain hole. I had the same problem with mine shortly after I bought it, though not as bad as you describe. When I rebuilt the camchest, I replaced the umbrella valves and installed the upgraded oil pump. Haven't had a problem since. Good luck with finding a solution, puking oil sucks!!!!
#19
I thought about doing that but I think if anything else is wrong or happens to go wrong with it, it may make it even harder to plea my case. They would probably question why I kept riding it if I knew there was a problem that needed attention. I want this to be on them as much as possible so I decided not to ride it anymore until they can get on it, that's assuming they agree to make it right.
#20
Pop the top off one of the rocker boxes. It's only 4 screws. Make sure the breather check valves are there and installed adjacent to the breather bolts. If the front rocker box was accidentally put on the rear, and vice versa, you'd get exactly what you're seeing. Being a professional shop, you'd hope they wouldn't make that error, but it's possible. It's certainly something we see sometimes from our customers.