Harley 48, 2015 or 2016?
#21
10-25-2015 | 10:05 PM
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There's a couple things you have to consider...did the owner of the 2015 do the 1k service already? thats $300 right there. If your buying used you save on set up and freight. Then again the 2016 has a much better ride. I currently have a 2011 and I work for HD and I the first time I took the 16 out it blew me away at how much better the front end felt. The brakes feel awesome and the rear shocks are very good for stock. I like the mags due to the fact you dont gotta worry about the tubes anymore. There's pros and cons to both. Someone also said earlier about another model year of depreciation...that's huge for residual value. For me in your situation I would go with the 2016.
#22
10-25-2015 | 10:07 PM
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Paying cash won't help you. They make money from the financing, if you use Harley's financing, and will occasionally lower the selling price. It's worth asking about. A question should be free. Having the cash, you can pay it off, immediately. The '15 doesn't sound like much of a deal, once you consider a year's worth of depreciation. With the '16, you'll also have an additional year of warranty, if that matters to you.
I'm not paying cash in full, just a large chunk, there will still be financing involved.
#24
10-26-2015 | 12:08 AM
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The 1,000 mile service is about 50 bucks worth of fluids, a couple gaskets and an oil filter. A total of about 70 skins. A Service Manual is about 60 clams, which is a worthwhile investment, no matter how much work you plan to perform on either bike. If you want something done right, do it yourself. Plus, we're here to help when you have questions or feel intimidated. I was the Parts Department Manager for a couple years at a large, metropolitan area Harley dealership, with 5 Harleys since 2000. Four of them, brand new. Three in the garage, now. One, I've had for 13 years and I can't imagine ever selling it. I certainly don't know everything, but there's a wealth of knowledge/experience, here on HDForums. It looks like you know your way around a tool box, anyway.
The color of the bike might make a difference, too. For instance, a dark red bike wouldn't make my socks go up and down, and I'd be disappointed every time I looked at it. As for the oil, gaskets, filter and Service Manual, negotiate a discount on parts/accessories before closing on the sale. Fifteen percent off for 180 days after purchase, is a good starting point. I wouldn't settle for less than 10% for 30 days, and I'd feel beat up if that's all I could get. Whatever you decide, it'll be the right decision for you. Besides, once you sign on the dotted line, there are no do-overs. Just enjoy the ride.
Pics, when you get it. Good luck.
The color of the bike might make a difference, too. For instance, a dark red bike wouldn't make my socks go up and down, and I'd be disappointed every time I looked at it. As for the oil, gaskets, filter and Service Manual, negotiate a discount on parts/accessories before closing on the sale. Fifteen percent off for 180 days after purchase, is a good starting point. I wouldn't settle for less than 10% for 30 days, and I'd feel beat up if that's all I could get. Whatever you decide, it'll be the right decision for you. Besides, once you sign on the dotted line, there are no do-overs. Just enjoy the ride.
Pics, when you get it. Good luck.
#25
10-26-2015 | 08:29 AM
The 1,000 mile service is about 50 bucks worth of fluids, a couple gaskets and an oil filter. A total of about 70 skins. A Service Manual is about 60 clams, which is a worthwhile investment, no matter how much work you plan to perform on either bike. If you want something done right, do it yourself. Plus, we're here to help when you have questions or feel intimidated. I was the Parts Department Manager for a couple years at a large, metropolitan area Harley dealership, with 5 Harleys since 2000. Four of them, brand new. Three in the garage, now. One, I've had for 13 years and I can't imagine ever selling it. I certainly don't know everything, but there's a wealth of knowledge/experience, here on HDForums. It looks like you know your way around a tool box, anyway.
The color of the bike might make a difference, too. For instance, a dark red bike wouldn't make my socks go up and down, and I'd be disappointed every time I looked at it. As for the oil, gaskets, filter and Service Manual, negotiate a discount on parts/accessories before closing on the sale. Fifteen percent off for 180 days after purchase, is a good starting point. I wouldn't settle for less than 10% for 30 days, and I'd feel beat up if that's all I could get. Whatever you decide, it'll be the right decision for you. Besides, once you sign on the dotted line, there are no do-overs. Just enjoy the ride.
Pics, when you get it. Good luck.
The color of the bike might make a difference, too. For instance, a dark red bike wouldn't make my socks go up and down, and I'd be disappointed every time I looked at it. As for the oil, gaskets, filter and Service Manual, negotiate a discount on parts/accessories before closing on the sale. Fifteen percent off for 180 days after purchase, is a good starting point. I wouldn't settle for less than 10% for 30 days, and I'd feel beat up if that's all I could get. Whatever you decide, it'll be the right decision for you. Besides, once you sign on the dotted line, there are no do-overs. Just enjoy the ride.
Pics, when you get it. Good luck.
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#26
10-26-2015 | 09:05 AM
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I'm a new rider, I take my riding class (required in Texas) in 2 weeks, and Hopefully will be buying my bike early December.
Been around various bikes, mostly Harleys my whole life, and finally pulled the trigger. I've had a pintrest
for awhile, just saving pictures of bikes and power tools, and I realized that most of pics look like the Harley 48, so I looked into it, and really seems like exactly what I want
And more importantly I can afford it.
After reading up o the new changes for 2016, I decided to buy new rather than used. I like the idea of picking up a bike with 10 miles on it, no one else's farts on the seat, doing all the mods myself, etc, etc.
At the dealer they're listed for about $11k. I figure if I present with cash I can walk out at $10.5. The exact bike I want is currently sitting on the showroom floor
But one of the salesmen has a client who got a 2015 a few months ago, rode it a little bit, and decided its not for him, so its been sitting in the garage, VERY low miles.
I can have it for $9500, and Harley will do the transfer and I will retain all the new owner perks, warranties, etc.
I don't like the wire wheels as much as the mags, but I do think they fit the bike, and I could upgrade the rear shocks with the saved cash. The only part that bothers me is the thinner front forks.
What do you guys think?
Been around various bikes, mostly Harleys my whole life, and finally pulled the trigger. I've had a pintrest
for awhile, just saving pictures of bikes and power tools, and I realized that most of pics look like the Harley 48, so I looked into it, and really seems like exactly what I wantAnd more importantly I can afford it.
After reading up o the new changes for 2016, I decided to buy new rather than used. I like the idea of picking up a bike with 10 miles on it, no one else's farts on the seat, doing all the mods myself, etc, etc.
At the dealer they're listed for about $11k. I figure if I present with cash I can walk out at $10.5. The exact bike I want is currently sitting on the showroom floor
But one of the salesmen has a client who got a 2015 a few months ago, rode it a little bit, and decided its not for him, so its been sitting in the garage, VERY low miles.
I can have it for $9500, and Harley will do the transfer and I will retain all the new owner perks, warranties, etc.
I don't like the wire wheels as much as the mags, but I do think they fit the bike, and I could upgrade the rear shocks with the saved cash. The only part that bothers me is the thinner front forks.
What do you guys think?
Remember, whatever price they give you on the 2016, they are going to tack on dealer prep and freight/shipping (about $1100 more added to the price). Don't forget sales tax and doc fees added to the price. The 2015 is not going to have the dealer prep and freight/shipping since it has been paid by the previous owner. So there is $1100 savings right there (unless you can convince the dealer to not charge you on the 2016).
The 2015 is going to be $9500 plus sales tax and doc fees only. The 2016 with dealer prep/shipping is going to be around $12100 plus sales tax and doc fees.
#27
10-26-2015 | 10:25 PM
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^This. We currently have a 2016 at my work and its $12,739 in Billet Silver with ABS and Security. Tack on another $1170 in set up and freight, then another $170 Doc Fees, plus tax. All said and done it goes over $15k depending on what county my customer is in. Now if you bought a 2015 from me for $9500 you'd be looking at only $325 in prep plus the $170 for Doc, plus tax. So your saving a good amount of money. Oh and like I said before, you still gotta do the 1k service on the new bike, through the dealer is about $300 so you gotta account for that too.
Even with all that I still vote for the 2016...
Even with all that I still vote for the 2016...
#28
10-27-2015 | 06:25 AM
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^This. We currently have a 2016 at my work and its $12,739 in Billet Silver with ABS and Security. Tack on another $1170 in set up and freight, then another $170 Doc Fees, plus tax. All said and done it goes over $15k depending on what county my customer is in. Now if you bought a 2015 from me for $9500 you'd be looking at only $325 in prep plus the $170 for Doc, plus tax. So your saving a good amount of money. Oh and like I said before, you still gotta do the 1k service on the new bike, through the dealer is about $300 so you gotta account for that too.
Even with all that I still vote for the 2016...
Even with all that I still vote for the 2016...
HD sales are down and it's reflected in the stock market.
I always know what model bike/automobile I want and make the deal over the phone instead of the sales floor. Be willing to travel to get the best deal.
#29
10-27-2015 | 07:32 AM
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I would find another dealer instead of taking a screwing from this one.
HD sales are down and it's reflected in the stock market.
I always know what model bike/automobile I want and make the deal over the phone instead of the sales floor. Be willing to travel to get the best deal.
HD sales are down and it's reflected in the stock market.
I always know what model bike/automobile I want and make the deal over the phone instead of the sales floor. Be willing to travel to get the best deal.
#30
10-27-2015 | 11:33 AM
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I would find another dealer instead of taking a screwing from this one.
HD sales are down and it's reflected in the stock market.
I always know what model bike/automobile I want and make the deal over the phone instead of the sales floor. Be willing to travel to get the best deal.
HD sales are down and it's reflected in the stock market.
I always know what model bike/automobile I want and make the deal over the phone instead of the sales floor. Be willing to travel to get the best deal.
Sportsters are going up in price due to them getting added features of ABS and Security. Keep that in mind, a base 48 is a tad over $11k now. ABS is $795 and Security another $395.
Last edited by Blackhawk48; 10-27-2015 at 11:36 AM.