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Old 11-01-2015 | 04:15 PM
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About 1 hour labor at $100 plus $30 gasket and 1 quart fluid so about $150 plus Game Changer. Rough estimate of course.
 
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Old 11-01-2015 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by soft 02
About 1 hour labor at $100 plus $30 gasket and 1 quart fluid so about $150 plus Game Changer. Rough estimate of course.
So no weird rivets to grind out or gear puller devices needed?

Sounds very good.

$350 plus changing one field in the Powervision tune, sounds good for a 6% gearing change on a bike that really would benefit from it!

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Old 11-01-2015 | 04:36 PM
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Hardest part is wiggling the clutch off. Pretty simple.
 
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Old 11-01-2015 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
The Primo belt drive is a legitimate solution, but costs $2000, which is double the cost of parts and labor to do an HD-based solution.

The belt drive also makes an already wide bike even wider, or at least it LOOKS like it would.
True and not so true. A 2" belt would look narrower than a 3" like I have, but it's only looks. You still have the clutch basket sticking out even on the stock unit.

The open belt drive is also a safety hazard.
That's an urban legend. Anyone that's worried about an open primary shouldn't be on a bike. Your chances of getting run into are greater than getting caught in a belt drive these days.

One reason that the belt drive might work ok without a compensator is that the belt by its nature helps to absorb vibration and drivetrain shocks.

How long does a belt in a belt drive last? Is it something that needs to be replaced regularly? (since there is no apparent way to compensate for belt stretch like there is on a final belt drive)
Another urban legend. It's not a rubber band, it's a kevlar belt - no stretching, period, so no absorption. Primo has a video where they cut the belt down to 1/4" width and do burnouts and it won't break. Only time will tell how long it lasts. Stones seem to be the biggest enemy, and R-P's end plate does a good job of keeping rocks out.

The gear indicator thing is solved easily IF you also have a Powervision. There is apparently a numerical field that you simply adjust.
I bought into the FP3 so I'm hoping they add functionality. I already have Primo's solution but don't feel gear indication is all that worth it, but thanks for the info.

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$350 plus changing one field in the Powervision tune, sounds good for a 6% gearing change on a bike that really would benefit from it!
Jim, I see places selling the game changer for $165, so obviously it looks like the easiest way to get an increase in power. Leave it to R-P to come up with a reasonable solution to HD's horrible gearing, eh.

Me, i'm just a belt-drive kind of guy.
 

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Old 11-01-2015 | 06:03 PM
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Rivera Primo Gear Ratio Game Changer 1066-0050

Any feed back on this product yet?
 
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Old 11-02-2015 | 05:03 PM
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Rivera Primo Gear Ratio Game Changer 1066-0050

Any feed back on this product yet?
Previous message: Originally Posted by soft 02
"It's new... I know a guy running it on his 150+ hp 124" and loves it."

Going by the quality of the belt drive system I bought from them - Rivera Primo's quality was top notch. If you have any questions, just call them up - unlike another un-named belt drive mfr., Rivera Primo actually answers the phone AND calls you back if need be.
 

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Old 11-02-2015 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FurryOne
Previous message: Originally Posted by soft 02
"It's new... I know a guy running it on his 150+ hp 124" and loves it."

Going by the quality of the belt drive system I bought from them - Rivera Primo's quality was top notch. If you have any questions, just call them up - unlike another un-named belt drive mfr., Rivera Primo actually answers the phone AND calls you back if need be.
Last few pages of this thread. Guy knows his stuff. Reply #4033.


http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index....c,64175.0.html

 

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Old 11-02-2015 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by soft 02
That's actually gorgeous to look at!

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Old 11-02-2015 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by soft 02
Thanks for the link Soft, I'm going to guess that's one of the pics from the other thread, all I could see was text as a guest.

I'm thinking about giving this a try, seems inexpensive enough. With my bike being a 2011 should it already have the updated compensator or would I still need the SE version.
 
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Old 11-02-2015 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat11Lo
Thanks for the link Soft, I'm going to guess that's one of the pics from the other thread, all I could see was text as a guest.

I'm thinking about giving this a try, seems inexpensive enough. With my bike being a 2011 should it already have the updated compensator or would I still need the SE version.
You are good. SE comp stock on 09+ I think. This kit just changes the sprocket. One complaint about the game changer is they cast the part # on the face on the mating surface of the spokes. Easily sanded off.
 


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