Well guys I think I just found the "bad ***" component for better gearing on the Breakout or any other softail / dyna. Seems Primo Rivera just started making a smaller 32t front compensator gear kit for all 2007-up bikes. All FXS/FXD are shown to fit this part including rocker / breakout.
This is the gearing half of the compensator sprocket and replaces the stock 34t gear with a new 32t gear- and you still keep the compensator function. Most places are out of stock but a few places have them some as low as $197.
Rivera Engineering 1066-0050 Gear Ratio Game Changer-Rivera
Basically what this does is change your primary gearing ratio from 1.35 to 1.44. With the stock 32t transmission pulley and stock 66t rear pulley, this gives you a 2.95 overall ratio (stock is 2.79). if you also do the 68T rear sportster pulley, you now end up with a 3.055 ratio- which is awesome, almost as good as the 3.067 ratio of the 30T trans pulley and 68T rear pulley upgrade.
This IMO is the better way to do it, and you can DIY this with basic tools. Cost wise, assuming the dealer charges an avg of $150 do to the 30t transmission pulley swap, you'll save over $100 going with the 32t compensator vs the 30t transmission pulley.
$200 for 32t Primo compensator kit -vs- $65 for the 32T trans pulley
$40 for primary gasket / derby cover gasket -vs- $100 for both inner and outer primary gasket kits
(optional) $160 for the 68T sportster sprocket, $10 for the five shorter sportster pulley bolts.
>DIY or shop labor to remove outer primary and swap the compensator sprocket outer half. put in shorter chain and adjuster spacer
(optional) > DIY or shop labor to change the rear pulley and adjust drive belt. using the 68T rear pulley is OPTIONAL with the Rivera kit but you'll only end up with 2.95 ratio- still not bad though / can do rear pulley later
-vs-
>$150 or more shop labor to swap the transmission pulley to 30t.
> The 30T transmission pulley swap requires also installing the 68T rear pulley, $165 plus bolts plus DIY. Unless you want to buy a shorter drive belt ($170+) and pay labor cost to swap belt (NOT cheap)
Of course I find this AFTER I bought the trans pulley and gaskets... lol
Note that with either method your speedo will be off, so you'll need a good tuner device like the PV2 to adjust the calibration. With the motor compensator change, you must also adjust the "gear ratios" section of the tune file otherwise your gear indicators and 6th gear light will be wrong. with the transmission pulley change, you don't touch the gear ratios you only adjust the 'speedometer' value.
GREAT find, LA_Dog!! Just swapping the 34T compensator sprocket to 32T gives you 6% more rpm, which is enough to be noticeable. And the cost is a lot less than any other alternative I've looked at.
Since I have the PowerVision tuner, making the necessary software changes is no cost for me.
Right now, I am putting all my extra funds into the toy hauler / RV / Garage trailer project (see my thread under "General Topics / Tech tips"), but when I finish that, this Rivera kit looks like maybe my next Breakout project.
OK...I see that there is a LOT of info on the Breakout but I see that it's spread out in numerous thread and you have to read through a TON of stuff to find what you are looking for (like this VERY long thread). Has anyone done a Breakout thread specifically designated for "Breakout Performance Mods"??? Handling and Engine mods?
I got one sticky published at the top of the softail forum for front suspension / tires. would be nice to have one, but locked so all you could do is post a "DIY" or tech thread. you can search within this thread for specific items and narrow it down a bit.
GREAT find, LA_Dog!! Just swapping the 34T compensator sprocket to 32T gives you 6% more rpm, which is enough to be noticeable. And the cost is a lot less than any other alternative I've looked at.
Since I have the PowerVision tuner, making the necessary software changes is no cost for me.
Right now, I am putting all my extra funds into the toy hauler / RV / Garage trailer project (see my thread under "General Topics / Tech tips"), but when I finish that, this Rivera kit looks like maybe my next Breakout project.
Jim G
cool- yeh I thought of you when I posted this, if I didn't see you in here I was gonna shoot you a PM. I did the math and it's actually a "Wash" as far as cost goes. that's assuming a $150 labor cost for the transmission pulley swap, and under $100 for all primary gaskets. it's a wash because the cost of the compensator kit is $200 vs the HD trans pulley at $63.
But doing the motor sprocket gives you more options, e.g. running a 66T rear pulley or a 68T for even more grunt. it's an easy swap.
BTW they are selling out of this kit everywhere so get one where you can.
Hey LA, with this compensator swap we don't have to switch out our stock drive belts do we?
Even if we go with the sportster pulley?
no you are strictly working with the primary housing motor gear and chain. totally separate from the secondary drive.
If you stick with the 32t front belt pulley and 66t rear, you will have a 2.96 overall gear ratio to the rear wheel. that's very good over the stock 2.79
If you also swap the rear pulley for the sportster 68t, you get 3.05 ratio- even better- and you still use the same stock drive belt.
Another small mod to the swingarm bag. Added a 12v harness, so I can plug in a GPS, phone, etc. Uses the same adapter as the battery tender, just unplug when I need to. Mounted it to a piece of aluminum plate, which stiffens the bag and doesn't touch the paint
First of all, I read this entire thread in the first few days of buying my Breakout...friggin awesome.
Now for the question. When I replaced my stock air cleaner with the PM HP, I couldn't find a decent spot to put the wires that were plugged into the back of the stock air cleaner. Anyone have a good fix for this?
I would post a pic of what I'm talkin g about, but this is my first post and it won't let me.
02-13-2015, 01:41 PM
