the fatboy saved harley?
#71
RE: the fatboy saved harley?
I didn't read all of the responses, so I don't know if someone addressed part of this question.
The names of the bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "Fat Man" and "Little Boy". The first Fat Boy had 7 pin stripes on the bike -- coincidence that December 7 was the date that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor?
The names of the bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "Fat Man" and "Little Boy". The first Fat Boy had 7 pin stripes on the bike -- coincidence that December 7 was the date that the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor?
#72
RE: the fatboy saved harley?
ORIGINAL: AGRV8D
Buckeye, please support your story about Harley no selling in 1903, dont just post something like that without any supporting evidence sir...
ORIGINAL: BuckeyeHD
Just marketing hype, like the one that says HD were selling Harleys in 1903, not true either, but it makes a good story.
ORIGINAL: dragonfiregirl
ive heard that HD was near bankruptcy when they introduced the fat boy and the controversy it caused with fat boy being an acroynm for the atomic bombs and all made it a hot seller and rekindled interest in harley. is that true or exagerated?
ive heard that HD was near bankruptcy when they introduced the fat boy and the controversy it caused with fat boy being an acroynm for the atomic bombs and all made it a hot seller and rekindled interest in harley. is that true or exagerated?
In fact, if you look at old advertising posters and magazines from back then you will see variously posted that HD motorcycles first appeared on the market in 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904 or 1905.
Everyone knows the claim that C.H. Lang of Chicago wa the first Halrey dealer and supposedly sold one of the first production Harleys in 1903. In 1914 Mr Lang stated in court, under oath (during a patent infringement hearing) that he had first "become familiar" with the Harley Davidson motorcycle in the Fall of 1904.
It appears that marketing hype and the blur of time has changed the real events. Research has shown that they really did succeed in putting that little engine on a bicycle in 1903 but it was not powerful enough to ride and certainly not good enough to sell. It would be two more years, 1905, before the first production motorcycle was produced. Records started to be "massaged" by the Ad men in 1908.
None of this really detracts from what the Harley is today (I love mine) but it makes an interesting read. My sources are: Cracking the Harley Code, by Herbert Wagner, and The Harley Davidson Reader (various authors including Sonny Barger and a foreword by Jean Davidson).
#73
RE: the fatboy saved harley?
the wilkepedia article on harley davidson supports buckeyes statement. bill harley and the davidson brothers built there first motorbike in 1903 but that little motor was so weak it couldnt even climb a little wisconsin hill. hd didnt incorporate in 03 either. the bike they built in 03 was a learning experience.
#75
RE: the fatboy saved harley?
ok i confess it was me who saved harley davidson by buying a 1990 fatboy so you can all thank me. just kidding of course, it is everybody who bought harleys without the people like the ones on this forum spending thier hard earned money they may not be in businees today. its always the consumer. someone always wants to credit a new design or innovation but it still comes down to the person spending the money.
#76
RE: the fatboy saved harley?
To all disbelievers, None of us were there in 1903. I do know that I just lost my Service Managers Dad that was alive at the time and he strapped a washer motor to a bicicle for a engine and rode it. When you manufature a contraption in your garage some day think of 1903 compared to 2007. You might make 1 fo you, one for your Dad and one for a buddy. If you think it's gonna sell it you sell franchises. Might take 6 months to get them one. 5 years later you might get an office person to think you will be here more than 10 years and start recording history. If your books don't mesh I hope someone like yourself "creams" your heritage. Thing is,it is claims and hearsay,so no one realy knows, but some of us think we know all the fact because what we read. If Anna Nicole Smith died in 1903 itwould take a year before Milwaukee knew.Those were wreckless kids at the time that came up with a bunch of junk before getting serious and look where it got them. It's not our job to profile. We have no idea.How many dealers today claim to be the oldest. HD knows who signed up first. My Grandpa was number 954, 1936. Fact is they built a bike in 1903. They never claimed to be the first.
#77
RE: the fatboy saved harley?
According to official factory info, 1903 was when HD began making motorcycles for the purpose of selling them. Sure, they were out in the shed experimenting well before then, but 1903 was when they were first making motorcycles specifically to sell. Interestingly enough, it is also official factory info that serial number 001 had over 100K miles on it when HD bought it back.
Also, it is urban legend that HD "invented" the V twin. While they currently have more practice than anyone else today at making them, there were several earlier examples. Even Triumph had a V twin some 5 years before HD put them in production.
Also, it is urban legend that HD "invented" the V twin. While they currently have more practice than anyone else today at making them, there were several earlier examples. Even Triumph had a V twin some 5 years before HD put them in production.