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Old 09-06-2011, 02:53 PM
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And by hard, I'm not talking about locking up the brakes hard, but when rolling in to a stop and grabbing enough front brake, the front forks will dive down pretty good before rebounding. They've been mostly good while riding around and I only have issue under heavier braking.

Is there a way to adjust them without replacing springs or whatever else?

It's a 2006 Deuce.
 
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And by hard, I'm not talking about locking up the brakes hard, but when rolling in to a stop and grabbing enough front brake, the front forks will dive down pretty good before rebounding. They've been mostly good while riding around and I only have issue under heavier braking.

Is there a way to adjust them without replacing springs or whatever else?

It's a 2006 Deuce.
How much do you weight?

These forks don't have adjustments like a sport bike so you can't really just adjust the preload to help a little most likely will need springs or better forks all around!
 
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And by hard, I'm not talking about locking up the brakes hard, but when rolling in to a stop and grabbing enough front brake, the front forks will dive down pretty good before rebounding. They've been mostly good while riding around and I only have issue under heavier braking.

Is there a way to adjust them without replacing springs or whatever else?

It's a 2006 Deuce.
Thicker weight fork oil is a good start.

If you are a heavier guy, you could also consider getting springs that have the proper spring rate for your bike and rider weight.

If you have any kind of adjustable preload, you can crank it up to be stiffer, that will help some.
 
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240 for now.
 
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If you did have adjustable preload cranking it down is basically shortening the spring and giving you less suspension travel.
If you need much preload then you most likely are better off going to a spring that is setup for your weight. This will give you better results and you keep the front end traveling like it's suppose to.
You can get a set of springs for around $100 and well worth it.
 
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240 for now.
Hey I'm around 225-230 so I wasn't trying to bash just needed a number.
Yea, I have a set of progressive springs cause I'm over what the stock setup is for and I get a lot of dive also.

Installing them in the night train wasn't hard, have to cut a piece of plastic for my weight but you can call and they helped me figure it out. Great support.

Biggest thing will being sure you get the right amount of fluid put back in.

The rear is very important also!
 
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Try going to the Screamin' Eagle Fork Oil and while you're at it replace your seals. Sometimes a Deuce can get a seeping fork seal and the rider not notice because of the dust covers above the fork lowers. SE oil is a heavier oil which will add to the dampening, but will not change the amount of travel. I agree on the Heavy Duty Springs for around $100 while you have the front end apart.
 

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I just did some more research on this and lots of guys have said that the Screaming Eagle Heavy oil did wonders for reducing their brake dive.

I'd try that, and then see how you like it.
 
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