Military riders, I've been waiting 25 years for somebody to sell this
#11
That looks like a pretty good idea, military or not.
Unfortunately, I think the Army says you have to wear the "brightly colored garment" (reflective at night) on post or off and:
http://www.wsmr.army.mil/PDF/motorcy...tyhandbook.PDF
Unfortunately, I think the Army says you have to wear the "brightly colored garment" (reflective at night) on post or off and:
http://www.wsmr.army.mil/PDF/motorcy...tyhandbook.PDF
Last edited by deadeye; 05-01-2011 at 08:04 AM.
#12
I wear my trusty reflective belt since they must be bullet proof as they make us wear walking down the street of US bases in Afghanistan (Anyone ever been to Bagram Air Field?) But seriously it is the minimum amount acceptable that I can just throw on over uniform to get me on post. That's the only time I wear it.
As far as not being covered in case of an accident, I have never seen it mentioned in any of the Preliminary Loss Reports they send out anytime there is a MC fatality. They do all mention of they were wearing a helmet and if it was DOT. Also always mention MSF training and whether they had attended.
That vest posted is kind of cool though. I can definetly see that filling a need.
As far as not being covered in case of an accident, I have never seen it mentioned in any of the Preliminary Loss Reports they send out anytime there is a MC fatality. They do all mention of they were wearing a helmet and if it was DOT. Also always mention MSF training and whether they had attended.
That vest posted is kind of cool though. I can definetly see that filling a need.
#13
I wear one of these jackets: https://shop.lvhd.com/productimages/97205_10VM_WH.jpg
I am Retired, and a CIV on a Navy Base. That vest is pretty cool, but I hate wearing long sleeves, which on my base is a requirement. So with this jacket I can wear short sleeve shirts, and just slip this jacket on to meet that requirement.
It has contrasting colors, and reflective letters for use at night. Being mesh it is not hot even in 85 deree weather.
I am Retired, and a CIV on a Navy Base. That vest is pretty cool, but I hate wearing long sleeves, which on my base is a requirement. So with this jacket I can wear short sleeve shirts, and just slip this jacket on to meet that requirement.
It has contrasting colors, and reflective letters for use at night. Being mesh it is not hot even in 85 deree weather.
#14
Following up - I just received the Missing Link vest and it is very nice and high quality. I ordered a size larger so I could wear it over a jacket and it fits great on top of my jacket or on its own. Now when I ride off base I can be instantly transformed from flaming D-Bag to regular A-Hole.
#15
FWIW I work as a police officer off base from Fort Hood. Anytime the Military gets wind/word of a motorcycle wreck with a active member a safety team goes out to investigate off base. They ask about helmet, eye pro, gloves, long sleeves, boots, and safety markings on clothes. I know they even go to Dallas and Austin for reported wrecks to get info.
My Agency as well as others were told to call the PMO anytime we stop an Active Duty member who is not in proper safety gear. My agency just enforces state law, but if you are an ars or have a wreck, you will be reported and I know a few UCMJ actions that have been taken on E-3's to E-7's and O-1's to O-4's (higher ranks never called to testify on).
The Military has a few issues, high fatality death count due to bad riders, high cost for injuries caused by bad riders, loss of soldiers to perform paid job or deploy when needed, to many soldiers and they want to make cuts on those who have a few years in.
I still serve in the Guard, and at drill's we have to wear safety gear if in uniform. I have never brought my bike on base, but do have the DOD tags on it just in case.
On a side note I have seen a few guys wear black vests with white refective markings on base and it seems to meet the requirements. I have read the rules on Fort Hood, and what they say is bright clothing durring day time, but they expect a vest/jacket/back pack set up on you.
My Agency as well as others were told to call the PMO anytime we stop an Active Duty member who is not in proper safety gear. My agency just enforces state law, but if you are an ars or have a wreck, you will be reported and I know a few UCMJ actions that have been taken on E-3's to E-7's and O-1's to O-4's (higher ranks never called to testify on).
The Military has a few issues, high fatality death count due to bad riders, high cost for injuries caused by bad riders, loss of soldiers to perform paid job or deploy when needed, to many soldiers and they want to make cuts on those who have a few years in.
I still serve in the Guard, and at drill's we have to wear safety gear if in uniform. I have never brought my bike on base, but do have the DOD tags on it just in case.
On a side note I have seen a few guys wear black vests with white refective markings on base and it seems to meet the requirements. I have read the rules on Fort Hood, and what they say is bright clothing durring day time, but they expect a vest/jacket/back pack set up on you.
#16
The current Navy rules are long sleeves, full fingered gloves, DOT helmet, eye protection, and over the ankle footwear during the day. Reflective vest/clothing at night. That said, individual bases or regions may make this more restrictive, which may be the reason for the different rules in Japan.
By the way, I know the Navy and Marine Corps lose a lot more sailors and marines in automobile accidents than in motorcycle accidents, but there is no required driving training.
By the way, I know the Navy and Marine Corps lose a lot more sailors and marines in automobile accidents than in motorcycle accidents, but there is no required driving training.
#17
FWIW I work as a police officer off base from Fort Hood. Anytime the Military gets wind/word of a motorcycle wreck with a active member a safety team goes out to investigate off base. They ask about helmet, eye pro, gloves, long sleeves, boots, and safety markings on clothes. I know they even go to Dallas and Austin for reported wrecks to get info.
My Agency as well as others were told to call the PMO anytime we stop an Active Duty member who is not in proper safety gear. My agency just enforces state law, but if you are an ars or have a wreck, you will be reported and I know a few UCMJ actions that have been taken on E-3's to E-7's and O-1's to O-4's (higher ranks never called to testify on).
The Military has a few issues, high fatality death count due to bad riders, high cost for injuries caused by bad riders, loss of soldiers to perform paid job or deploy when needed, to many soldiers and they want to make cuts on those who have a few years in.
I still serve in the Guard, and at drill's we have to wear safety gear if in uniform. I have never brought my bike on base, but do have the DOD tags on it just in case.
On a side note I have seen a few guys wear black vests with white refective markings on base and it seems to meet the requirements. I have read the rules on Fort Hood, and what they say is bright clothing durring day time, but they expect a vest/jacket/back pack set up on you.
My Agency as well as others were told to call the PMO anytime we stop an Active Duty member who is not in proper safety gear. My agency just enforces state law, but if you are an ars or have a wreck, you will be reported and I know a few UCMJ actions that have been taken on E-3's to E-7's and O-1's to O-4's (higher ranks never called to testify on).
The Military has a few issues, high fatality death count due to bad riders, high cost for injuries caused by bad riders, loss of soldiers to perform paid job or deploy when needed, to many soldiers and they want to make cuts on those who have a few years in.
I still serve in the Guard, and at drill's we have to wear safety gear if in uniform. I have never brought my bike on base, but do have the DOD tags on it just in case.
On a side note I have seen a few guys wear black vests with white refective markings on base and it seems to meet the requirements. I have read the rules on Fort Hood, and what they say is bright clothing durring day time, but they expect a vest/jacket/back pack set up on you.
#18
#19
FYI
The Marine Corps has removed all reflective and bright color requirements (on and off base, day and night).
That covers all Marine Corps installations world wide.
Granted, we have to abide by the local base rules when riding on Navy, Army and Air Force bases.
S/F
Freefall
The Marine Corps has removed all reflective and bright color requirements (on and off base, day and night).
That covers all Marine Corps installations world wide.
Granted, we have to abide by the local base rules when riding on Navy, Army and Air Force bases.
S/F
Freefall
#20