Thinking of Changing Harley's
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06-16-2009, 03:23 PM
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Thinking of Changing Harley's
Hi guys
I'm pretty new to this forum, but I need some help.
I currently have a 08 VRSCAW, I love it but i have been eyeing up a 09 Night train for some time. I want the traditional Harley, and the train is my favorite.
But I have come to love the V's handling and straight line speed.
Can you guys (and girls) advise on what's best to do? do I get the train or keep the V.
Pros and cons for both would be really helpfull.
Thank you
Rob
I'm pretty new to this forum, but I need some help.
I currently have a 08 VRSCAW, I love it but i have been eyeing up a 09 Night train for some time. I want the traditional Harley, and the train is my favorite.
But I have come to love the V's handling and straight line speed.
Can you guys (and girls) advise on what's best to do? do I get the train or keep the V.
Pros and cons for both would be really helpfull.
Thank you
Rob
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06-16-2009, 03:55 PM
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Hey, yo!
I was kind of in the same boat as you.. I, about 2 months ago, pulled the trigger on the Night Rod Special because it looked killer. I rode it for a week and my body said "enough". So, I bought the Cross Bones and have loved every minute of it. I think you should get the other one. They're both killer, though.
I was kind of in the same boat as you.. I, about 2 months ago, pulled the trigger on the Night Rod Special because it looked killer. I rode it for a week and my body said "enough". So, I bought the Cross Bones and have loved every minute of it. I think you should get the other one. They're both killer, though.
#3
06-16-2009, 04:11 PM
R.I.P. BROTHER
Night Train Pros:
They dont cost much comparitively.
They accept personalization very well.
The 96" motor can easily be built into a 100HP/115TQ 103 or 110 stroker fairly reasonably that will fuel your need for speed.
A lowered Night Train handles better than a stocker.
There are more softail crossover parts than you can shake a stick at...And they are cheap!
Ummm...Chicks dig Night Trains?
Cons:
Beating off the unwanted Chicks
Convincing your friends it really is 15K bike.
Staying away from the Night Train picture thread and maxing out yer' Gold card on trick parts?
On a Night Train everyone will want to be your friend?
Your face will be sore from all the Train induced smiling.
Vee-Rawd pro's:
They are faster than Softails in stock to stock configuration.
They have better brakes.
They corner better.
You wont waste money on aftermarket parts cause there isnt much out there?
Cons:
They broke from tradition and sound...Different?
M109 guys wanna street race you all the time.
You cant turn it from bar hopper to long range cruiser as easily.
Not as many people know how to work on the motor.
They seem to lose value quickly?
Chicks may tend to dig Trains more?
Convincing your friends its an 18K bike.What can you do to a Vee-Rawd? Bar choices?
Theres my .02!!!
They dont cost much comparitively.
They accept personalization very well.
The 96" motor can easily be built into a 100HP/115TQ 103 or 110 stroker fairly reasonably that will fuel your need for speed.
A lowered Night Train handles better than a stocker.
There are more softail crossover parts than you can shake a stick at...And they are cheap!
Ummm...Chicks dig Night Trains?
Cons:
Beating off the unwanted Chicks
Convincing your friends it really is 15K bike.
Staying away from the Night Train picture thread and maxing out yer' Gold card on trick parts?
On a Night Train everyone will want to be your friend?
Your face will be sore from all the Train induced smiling.
Vee-Rawd pro's:
They are faster than Softails in stock to stock configuration.
They have better brakes.
They corner better.
You wont waste money on aftermarket parts cause there isnt much out there?
Cons:
They broke from tradition and sound...Different?
M109 guys wanna street race you all the time.
You cant turn it from bar hopper to long range cruiser as easily.
Not as many people know how to work on the motor.
They seem to lose value quickly?
Chicks may tend to dig Trains more?
Convincing your friends its an 18K bike.What can you do to a Vee-Rawd? Bar choices?
Theres my .02!!!
#4
06-16-2009, 04:19 PM
Road Warrior
Hi guys
I'm pretty new to this forum, but I need some help.
I currently have a 08 VRSCAW, I love it but i have been eyeing up a 09 Night train for some time. I want the traditional Harley, and the train is my favorite.
But I have come to love the V's handling and straight line speed.
Can you guys (and girls) advise on what's best to do? do I get the train or keep the V.
Pros and cons for both would be really helpfull.
Thank you
Rob
I'm pretty new to this forum, but I need some help.
I currently have a 08 VRSCAW, I love it but i have been eyeing up a 09 Night train for some time. I want the traditional Harley, and the train is my favorite.
But I have come to love the V's handling and straight line speed.
Can you guys (and girls) advise on what's best to do? do I get the train or keep the V.
Pros and cons for both would be really helpfull.
Thank you
Rob
The Pro's weigh the con's out definitely. they can easily be taken from bar hopper to coast to coast runners. I love my train as much as the next guy on the forum. they are great bikes that can be stepped up not just from looks but performance. There are guys on here that canyon carve with there night trains. I love mine because I can go down the street or down to Florida in a day. NUFF SAID!!!!
BAR HOPPER!!
LONG HAUL!!
#5
06-16-2009, 04:39 PM
R.I.P. BROTHER
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06-16-2009, 05:17 PM
R.I.P. BROTHER
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#8
06-16-2009, 05:27 PM
Sounds like me 3 months ago...
Traded a 08 Night Rod Special for an 09 Train back in March. Put almost 10k on the V-rod and so far 2k on the Train.
V-ROD Pros
Fast as hell stock (my stage one made 116hp/77tq)
Low center of gravity makes bike feel way lighter then it is
Not everyone has one
Excellent brakes
Engine is smooth at any RPM
Bullet proof reliability. Unless you run it out of coolent or oil you're not going to hurt that motor. Quite a few high milage rod out there that have been riden VERY VERY hard.
NT pros
Tradition H-D sound and feel
Lots of aftermarket support
tons of indy shops work on them
Coolest big twin you can buy
V-ROD con's
Lower resale value then some big twins
Harder to work on-most indy shops won't
Drinks fuel like crazy when riden hard (53mm throttle body)
Sounds more metric then H-D
NT Cons
TC96 engine seem to have more then their share of problems
Brakes are a joke
Lots of vibration above 75mph or under heavy throttle
You will part with lots of $ making it your own
Traded a 08 Night Rod Special for an 09 Train back in March. Put almost 10k on the V-rod and so far 2k on the Train.
V-ROD Pros
Fast as hell stock (my stage one made 116hp/77tq)
Low center of gravity makes bike feel way lighter then it is
Not everyone has one
Excellent brakes
Engine is smooth at any RPM
Bullet proof reliability. Unless you run it out of coolent or oil you're not going to hurt that motor. Quite a few high milage rod out there that have been riden VERY VERY hard.
NT pros
Tradition H-D sound and feel
Lots of aftermarket support
tons of indy shops work on them
Coolest big twin you can buy
V-ROD con's
Lower resale value then some big twins
Harder to work on-most indy shops won't
Drinks fuel like crazy when riden hard (53mm throttle body)
Sounds more metric then H-D
NT Cons
TC96 engine seem to have more then their share of problems
Brakes are a joke
Lots of vibration above 75mph or under heavy throttle
You will part with lots of $ making it your own
#9
06-16-2009, 06:03 PM
R.I.P. BROTHER
TC96 engine seem to have more then their share of problems
I have read of the heat issues, some isolated instances of excessive crank runout but short of that are their other issues with the 96"?
#10
06-16-2009, 07:16 PM
I agree that TC88's have been very reliable
The TC96 has serious heat issues thanks to EPA mandated AFR. Before I had the dealer load the stage one race tuner map (with closed loop setting as rich as they could go) the damn exhaust got so hot it almost set my pant leg on fire. Richer AFR also dropped oil temp 15 degrees which was a good thing.
The TC-96 flywheel runout issue may be isolated but H-D's response to the problem or potental problem has been shameful at best.
As far as other problems with TC engines, maybe I'm spending too much time reading Donny's columns in American Iron mag
Bottom line is anyone trading a v-rod for a TC powered bike needs to understand both the beauty and limitations of the TC design. I love my softail for what it is. It looks great, makes great low end torque and is easy to work on but I understand I can't ride it like the v-rod. The v-rod is a drag bike in street clothes.
My advice is to demo the Nightrain before making a final decision.
2009 Vivid Black Night Train
Rush 2.0 mufflers
SE A/C, SEPST
The TC96 has serious heat issues thanks to EPA mandated AFR. Before I had the dealer load the stage one race tuner map (with closed loop setting as rich as they could go) the damn exhaust got so hot it almost set my pant leg on fire. Richer AFR also dropped oil temp 15 degrees which was a good thing.
The TC-96 flywheel runout issue may be isolated but H-D's response to the problem or potental problem has been shameful at best.
As far as other problems with TC engines, maybe I'm spending too much time reading Donny's columns in American Iron mag
Bottom line is anyone trading a v-rod for a TC powered bike needs to understand both the beauty and limitations of the TC design. I love my softail for what it is. It looks great, makes great low end torque and is easy to work on but I understand I can't ride it like the v-rod. The v-rod is a drag bike in street clothes.
My advice is to demo the Nightrain before making a final decision.
2009 Vivid Black Night Train
Rush 2.0 mufflers
SE A/C, SEPST