204 or 211
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05-30-2009 | 11:51 AM
Sash, Tom from http://harleygoodies.com/ here. If I had any choice I would call up Woods and ask them what they suggest. Some questions you need to ask yourself are you planning on building the motor? Where do you want the power to come in? How much are you willing to spend? Do you want gear drive? Do a little research by searching and you will find numerous posts on the subject. I do not have THE answer for you.
Regards,
Tom
Harley Goodies
Regards,
Tom
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05-30-2009 | 12:22 PM
R.I.P. BROTHER
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211's need a buncha compression and headwork to function properly!! Dont even let them or anyone try to tell you they dont. I know I have a set in my 95" and its a high RPM cam 10:5-1 at least or it wont work very well. 204's are more of a drop in and go type cam that make their money at mid-upper RPM's 203's are a low end Tq cam.
If you were gonna do a drop in cam and you had to have SE cams the 204 would be your best bet for a drop in and go application.
Woods, Headquarters, Andrews all make really good drop in cams as well if you dont want to do headwork and wanna run stock compression and unmolestered heads.
If you were gonna do a drop in cam and you had to have SE cams the 204 would be your best bet for a drop in and go application.
Woods, Headquarters, Andrews all make really good drop in cams as well if you dont want to do headwork and wanna run stock compression and unmolestered heads.
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05-30-2009 | 03:27 PM
R.I.P. BROTHER
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+1
post some dyno ***** if you have.
This Dyno ****' shows two different scenarios as the Red line is a 2-1 Rinehart and the blue is a set Big Shot Staggereds.
I bought the bike and shipped it in from altalnta with a cheap cookie cutter 95" dealership big bore kit and the 211's. I had planned to yank them but ended up liking how they ran up at this altitude and had the heads milled, rings handmatched and put a .030 gasket to get the compression up enough to make them work. The motor guy, Dyno guy and myself were all kinda suprisewd how well the 211's worked in concert with the other work that was done.
I wouldnt buy a set of 211's if I had stock cams and wanted to upgrade though. I would go with something just a little gruntier outta the hole....Andrews 37's or a cam from HQ probably. Which were on the list to do until my Motor guy looked at the dyno and told me that the gain going from 211's to 37's just wouldnt be worth the expense. Sop ion some freaky scenatrios the 211's can work. Not my first choice though. Just kinda inherited em!!
Note to Hammer: Look at the Rineharts HP curve just falling dead flat at 4800 with a 211 cam no less??....Dag-Nabbit!!
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05-30-2009 | 07:43 PM
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05-30-2009 | 07:47 PM
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+1
This is a set of 211's in a higher than stock compression 95" With ported heads running at 6000 above sea-level. Keep in mind that skews the numbers as this build would easily do 100/115 at sea-level.
This Dyno ****' shows two different scenarios as the Red line is a 2-1 Rinehart and the blue is a set Big Shot Staggereds.
I bought the bike and shipped it in from altalnta with a cheap cookie cutter 95" dealership big bore kit and the 211's. I had planned to yank them but ended up liking how they ran up at this altitude and had the heads milled, rings handmatched and put a .030 gasket to get the compression up enough to make them work. The motor guy, Dyno guy and myself were all kinda suprisewd how well the 211's worked in concert with the other work that was done.
I wouldnt buy a set of 211's if I had stock cams and wanted to upgrade though. I would go with something just a little gruntier outta the hole....Andrews 37's or a cam from HQ probably. Which were on the list to do until my Motor guy looked at the dyno and told me that the gain going from 211's to 37's just wouldnt be worth the expense. Sop ion some freaky scenatrios the 211's can work. Not my first choice though. Just kinda inherited em!!
Note to Hammer: Look at the Rineharts HP curve just falling dead flat at 4800 with a 211 cam no less??....Dag-Nabbit!!
This is a set of 211's in a higher than stock compression 95" With ported heads running at 6000 above sea-level. Keep in mind that skews the numbers as this build would easily do 100/115 at sea-level.
This Dyno ****' shows two different scenarios as the Red line is a 2-1 Rinehart and the blue is a set Big Shot Staggereds.
I bought the bike and shipped it in from altalnta with a cheap cookie cutter 95" dealership big bore kit and the 211's. I had planned to yank them but ended up liking how they ran up at this altitude and had the heads milled, rings handmatched and put a .030 gasket to get the compression up enough to make them work. The motor guy, Dyno guy and myself were all kinda suprisewd how well the 211's worked in concert with the other work that was done.
I wouldnt buy a set of 211's if I had stock cams and wanted to upgrade though. I would go with something just a little gruntier outta the hole....Andrews 37's or a cam from HQ probably. Which were on the list to do until my Motor guy looked at the dyno and told me that the gain going from 211's to 37's just wouldnt be worth the expense. Sop ion some freaky scenatrios the 211's can work. Not my first choice though. Just kinda inherited em!!
Note to Hammer: Look at the Rineharts HP curve just falling dead flat at 4800 with a 211 cam no less??....Dag-Nabbit!!
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05-30-2009 | 07:55 PM
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Road Warrior
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this dude claims 90+ hp 211 cam pipes and iair cleaner... edit:95hp 99tq
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/gener...255-cam-2.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/gener...255-cam-2.html