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#32
tell them no problem and airlines are cheap and my dealer in texas will send it van lines to you as a dealer transfer and you get 1000 under msrp and pay taxes as if you bought it there.
#33
H-D should:
- increase all bikes power and torque.
- cancel the Rocker and the Nighttrain and introduce blacked-out Rocker. so taking out two models from the huge softail line up. and yea change the Rocker C stupid seat.
- cancel the Muscle and introduce Night Rod Muscle. so vrod line will have three models only. and power to be atl east 160-170hp.
- put water cooled engine to all touring models. and try to limit the line to three bikes only.
- Limit the sportster line to have only 3 or 4 bikes.
- and the big step will be lowering the unjustified prices.
- increase all bikes power and torque.
- cancel the Rocker and the Nighttrain and introduce blacked-out Rocker. so taking out two models from the huge softail line up. and yea change the Rocker C stupid seat.
- cancel the Muscle and introduce Night Rod Muscle. so vrod line will have three models only. and power to be atl east 160-170hp.
- put water cooled engine to all touring models. and try to limit the line to three bikes only.
- Limit the sportster line to have only 3 or 4 bikes.
- and the big step will be lowering the unjustified prices.
#34
H-D should:
- increase all bikes power and torque.
- cancel the Rocker and the Nighttrain and introduce blacked-out Rocker. so taking out two models from the huge softail line up. and yea change the Rocker C stupid seat.
- cancel the Muscle and introduce Night Rod Muscle. so vrod line will have three models only. and power to be atl east 160-170hp.
- put water cooled engine to all touring models. and try to limit the line to three bikes only.
- Limit the sportster line to have only 3 or 4 bikes.
- and the big step will be lowering the unjustified prices.
- increase all bikes power and torque.
- cancel the Rocker and the Nighttrain and introduce blacked-out Rocker. so taking out two models from the huge softail line up. and yea change the Rocker C stupid seat.
- cancel the Muscle and introduce Night Rod Muscle. so vrod line will have three models only. and power to be atl east 160-170hp.
- put water cooled engine to all touring models. and try to limit the line to three bikes only.
- Limit the sportster line to have only 3 or 4 bikes.
- and the big step will be lowering the unjustified prices.
- They need an all black Rocker, but I think they should have a Rocker or Rocker-C, not both. They do not need to cancel the Night Train, they cant keep them in stock over here. Basically slim down all the model choices, which they kind of did a few years ago, but now have more models to replace the confusing line already.
- Too many Sportster models, make 3/4 I agree with. (Nightster/Iron 883 keep those)
- Knock $1,000 of each MSRP to start.
Here is my model outline/changes lol. I'm bored I guess for doing this. Go from 31 models to 18, and stop confusing new buyers. I know some of my friends looking at new bikes when they went to purchase, were just totally confused on differences of certain bikes. I spend a lot of time on purchases, but HD has even got me confused on some models. I love options and choice, but since they are struggling, this may be the best route for overhead to come down.
(Currently) Condense down to these only
(7 Sportsters) 883, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, XR1200
(5 Dyna) Low Rider, Fat Bob, Superglide
(8 Softail) Night Train, Fat Boy, Rocker-C, Softail Classic
(3 VRSC) Night Rod, Vrod Muscle
(8 Touring) Road King, Electra Glide Standard/Classic, Ultra Glide, Tr-Glide
Last edited by jknowlton; 04-13-2009 at 10:23 AM.
#35
- I believe the increase will happen in a few years, I really dont think anytime within the next 1-2 years.
- They need an all black Rocker, but I think they should have a Rocker or Rocker-C, not both. They do not need to cancel the Night Train, they cant keep them in stock over here. Basically slim down all the model choices, which they kind of did a few years ago, but now have more models to replace the confusing line already.
- Too many Sportster models, make 3/4 I agree with. (Nightster/Iron 883 keep those)
- Knock $1,000 of each MSRP to start.
Here is my model outline/changes lol. I'm bored I guess for doing this. Go from 31 models to 18, and stop confusing new buyers. I know some of my friends looking at new bikes when they went to purchase, were just totally confused on differences of certain bikes. I spend a lot of time on purchases, but HD has even got me confused on some models. I love options and choice, but since they are struggling, this may be the best route for overhead to come down.
(Currently) Condense down to these only
(7 Sportsters) 883, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, XR1200
(5 Dyna) Low Rider, Fat Bob, Superglide
(8 Softail) Night Train, Fat Boy, Rocker-C, Softail Classic
(3 VRSC) Night Rod, Vrod Muscle
(8 Touring) Road King, Electra Glide Standard/Classic, Ultra Glide, Tr-Glide
- They need an all black Rocker, but I think they should have a Rocker or Rocker-C, not both. They do not need to cancel the Night Train, they cant keep them in stock over here. Basically slim down all the model choices, which they kind of did a few years ago, but now have more models to replace the confusing line already.
- Too many Sportster models, make 3/4 I agree with. (Nightster/Iron 883 keep those)
- Knock $1,000 of each MSRP to start.
Here is my model outline/changes lol. I'm bored I guess for doing this. Go from 31 models to 18, and stop confusing new buyers. I know some of my friends looking at new bikes when they went to purchase, were just totally confused on differences of certain bikes. I spend a lot of time on purchases, but HD has even got me confused on some models. I love options and choice, but since they are struggling, this may be the best route for overhead to come down.
(Currently) Condense down to these only
(7 Sportsters) 883, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, XR1200
(5 Dyna) Low Rider, Fat Bob, Superglide
(8 Softail) Night Train, Fat Boy, Rocker-C, Softail Classic
(3 VRSC) Night Rod, Vrod Muscle
(8 Touring) Road King, Electra Glide Standard/Classic, Ultra Glide, Tr-Glide
My line up would be:
Sportster: 883 Custom, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, Nightster (XR 1200 is good as a limited production model, there are plenty on the market right now)
Dynas: Super Glide Custom, Wide Glide, Fat Bob, Street Bob (Actually Blacked Out, not half a$$)
VRods: Vrod, Muscle, Night Muscle
Softails: Softail Custom, Night Train/Rocker Combo, Fat Boy, Rocker C, X-Bones, Deluxe/Heritage Combo (Basically a Deluxe with options to make a Heritage)
Touring: Road King Classic (With different bag options), Night King (You know you want it), Street Glide, Electra Glide Classic (With options to make it an Ultra), Blacked out Street Glide, Tri-Glide.
#36
I agree with you that HD needs to condense models but your leaving out some very popular models (Heritage, Deluxe).
My line up would be:
Sportster: 883 Custom, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, Nightster (XR 1200 is good as a limited production model, there are plenty on the market right now)
Dynas: Super Glide Custom, Wide Glide, Fat Bob, Street Bob (Actually Blacked Out, not half a$$)
VRods: Vrod, Muscle, Night Muscle
Softails: Softail Custom, Night Train/Rocker Combo, Fat Boy, Rocker C, X-Bones, Deluxe/Heritage Combo (Basically a Deluxe with options to make a Heritage)
Touring: Road King Classic (With different bag options), Night King (You know you want it), Street Glide, Electra Glide Classic (With options to make it an Ultra), Blacked out Street Glide, Tri-Glide.
My line up would be:
Sportster: 883 Custom, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, Nightster (XR 1200 is good as a limited production model, there are plenty on the market right now)
Dynas: Super Glide Custom, Wide Glide, Fat Bob, Street Bob (Actually Blacked Out, not half a$$)
VRods: Vrod, Muscle, Night Muscle
Softails: Softail Custom, Night Train/Rocker Combo, Fat Boy, Rocker C, X-Bones, Deluxe/Heritage Combo (Basically a Deluxe with options to make a Heritage)
Touring: Road King Classic (With different bag options), Night King (You know you want it), Street Glide, Electra Glide Classic (With options to make it an Ultra), Blacked out Street Glide, Tri-Glide.
#37
guys, guys,guys.....one of the things that make Harley great is that there are plenty of models based on the same frame to chose from. if we bring the choices down to 3 per model it would really limit the choices. this ain't Cuba, while I agree with most of the choices some have suggested, I also know that some don't.
on top of that it is already hard to find your bike at the local watering hole, imagine with less bikes option....
weed out the bikes that don't sell, but base it on numbers not emotions
on top of that it is already hard to find your bike at the local watering hole, imagine with less bikes option....
weed out the bikes that don't sell, but base it on numbers not emotions
#38
No Heritage!? - BLASPHEMY!!!!!
- I believe the increase will happen in a few years, I really dont think anytime within the next 1-2 years.
- They need an all black Rocker, but I think they should have a Rocker or Rocker-C, not both. They do not need to cancel the Night Train, they cant keep them in stock over here. Basically slim down all the model choices, which they kind of did a few years ago, but now have more models to replace the confusing line already.
- Too many Sportster models, make 3/4 I agree with. (Nightster/Iron 883 keep those)
- Knock $1,000 of each MSRP to start.
Here is my model outline/changes lol. I'm bored I guess for doing this. Go from 31 models to 18, and stop confusing new buyers. I know some of my friends looking at new bikes when they went to purchase, were just totally confused on differences of certain bikes. I spend a lot of time on purchases, but HD has even got me confused on some models. I love options and choice, but since they are struggling, this may be the best route for overhead to come down.
(Currently) Condense down to these only
(7 Sportsters) 883, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, XR1200
(5 Dyna) Low Rider, Fat Bob, Superglide
(8 Softail) Night Train, Fat Boy, Rocker-C, Softail Classic
(3 VRSC) Night Rod, Vrod Muscle
(8 Touring) Road King, Electra Glide Standard/Classic, Ultra Glide, Tr-Glide
- They need an all black Rocker, but I think they should have a Rocker or Rocker-C, not both. They do not need to cancel the Night Train, they cant keep them in stock over here. Basically slim down all the model choices, which they kind of did a few years ago, but now have more models to replace the confusing line already.
- Too many Sportster models, make 3/4 I agree with. (Nightster/Iron 883 keep those)
- Knock $1,000 of each MSRP to start.
Here is my model outline/changes lol. I'm bored I guess for doing this. Go from 31 models to 18, and stop confusing new buyers. I know some of my friends looking at new bikes when they went to purchase, were just totally confused on differences of certain bikes. I spend a lot of time on purchases, but HD has even got me confused on some models. I love options and choice, but since they are struggling, this may be the best route for overhead to come down.
(Currently) Condense down to these only
(7 Sportsters) 883, Iron 883, 1200 Custom, XR1200
(5 Dyna) Low Rider, Fat Bob, Superglide
(8 Softail) Night Train, Fat Boy, Rocker-C, Softail Classic
(3 VRSC) Night Rod, Vrod Muscle
(8 Touring) Road King, Electra Glide Standard/Classic, Ultra Glide, Tr-Glide
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