i love my rocker i love my fat boy and i love my ultra classic... every one likes different stuff i never bad mouth some one elses bike nor do i like someone to bash mine . i like the gap between the wheel and the seat. it doesnt look bad in person as it does in the pics. as far as handling goes it is by far the easiest to ride of my bikes. I too am getting tired of the bashing no one needs to buy one if they dont like them. i dont like all harleys but never slam any of them. maybe we should have our own forum and let people bash us on the other forums. jmo