I was ready to get the Thundermax..... However I am in California and I jsut read that it isnt available for sale in California. So what is the next best option?

Again sorry to highjack your thread..... but this is really good info. Thanks guys.

 

Duhh.... You already answered that above.... I guess the next best thing is a fuel management systemwith a dyno tune. Is the Harley Download really that bad? What are the negatives?

 

I think thats good advice, Thundermax (or SERT) if money is no object. I'm going to get a PCIII cause I want to "play" with it, and I can always upgrade it to something else later if I don't like it.

 

But it looks as if I cant used the Thundermax in California..... so it looks like I will also get the PCIII.

 

From what I've read, the Harley Download is still somewhatEPA lean, but not as lean as stock.With theDyno Tunes they can basically do whatever they want and hand tune it. Iknow PowerCommander has a EPA legal version if you wanted to go that route Not sure if it covers California- Check their website if you have interest in that.

 

Move. if that is not an option then you could try the power commander for California but i bet it will still run too hot. air cooled engines are not made to run 14.7 AFR. I think you will see Harley water cooled like the V Rod in all larger models. I just checked their web site and they no longer offer the EPA fuel management. Your only choice is run lean or break the law and install one.
My bad. Found this link.

http://66.132.187.150/powercommander...formation.aspx

 

WOW, your edit showed up in my reply and through me off. I also checked Dynajet's site and it looks like the EPA version is still for sale, and it looks like its California legal by the numbers they are showing. It looks like you can't control the idle-crusing ranges, but can control the other ranges if I read it correctly.

I think I'm going to get the non-EPA version and see how that goes. I think I'm going to go with the EPA pipes though, I already have a pair of EPA 80db SE Catalyst mufflers that came with the take off pipes I got, but I think I want the Non-Catalyst SE mufflers on my bike.

 

Go with the Thundermax. You can always set it for 14.7 when getting inspected and then change it back. The new Vance and Hines QB are supposed to be Cal legal and have the EPA noise stamp on them and I hear they sound good. You can always remove the baffle and the Thundermax will re-tune it and then put them back for inspection.

 

I just put new pipes on my '07 FXSTC and saw the same thing when I removed the heat shields, those suckas were ugly discolored, that's why HD cover 'em up. I hope with the PCIII and Dyno tuning that these pipes will not blue as bad.


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