Yes. And the NET result is about the same original weight as before the engine guard was added, but a lower center of gravity because the engine guard's center of mass is lower than that of the battery.

The Noco is also significantly less tall than the OEM battery, until you add the 2 plastic spacers to its bottom to get back to OEM height. That means it goes in or out of the battery comaprtment withOUT having to remove the OEM engine oil funnel each time.

Jim G

 

You bet I do. The fuel tank is placed VERY high on the motorcycle - exceeded only by the handlebars. So, yes, and by the way, premium 94 octane fuel weighs more per gallon than 89 or 91 octane fuel; about 6.4 lb per US gallon. So 5 gallons of it actually weighs about 32 lb. Plus, it SLOSHES when the bike is leaned or tipped, accentuating the lean or tip effects, That's why race motorcycles and cars have baffles inside their fuel tanks, to mitigate the sloshing effects.

Jim G

 

By the way, I'm not that concerned about the HANDLING improvement here due to the lower center of gravity, as a Harley breakout does not "handle" anywhere near as well as a lighter sportbike. What I AM concerned about is if I am doing a u-turn, or turning a tight turn when there might be sand or gravel on the pavement (we sue sand and gravel A LOT on Canadian roads in cold weather), and the bike starts to try to tip over, a lower center of gravity, even when the actual weight loss is small, gives the bike less leverage to overcome my efforts to keep it upright.

And, should the bike actually tip over, a lower center of gravity makes it FAR easier to get it upright again. Remember, I am 73 years of age and nOT a body builder.

Jim G

 

Eh. I'll stick with my heavy *** AGM. That way my bikes and house won't burn down

 

Had the Moco 30....was great until it wasn't...It lasted 6 months. Noco said 6 weeks to replace it. I got a 100% refund from Amazon. POS, many complaints. Beware!

Check most recent reviews on the nlp30 on Amazon....

and I'm not against lithium as I have a bike master in my 06 Softail going on it's 6th year

 

Golfblues: Let's try to diagnose WHY.Tell us:
- What AH rating did that battery have?
- What motorcycle model & year was it used on?
- How often was the motorcycle ridden?
- what battery charger did you use?
- how often did you charge it?
- What were the symptoms when it failed?
- Progressively got weaker or fine "until it wasn't"?
- At the time of failure, what was the ambient temperature?

Jim G

 

Break them out guys !

 

Oil funnel under the seat? When did Harley start doing that?

 

Oh please, read the reviews. I've never had problems with any batteries including Bike Master lithium. The Noco is a piece of crap. And it was on a 19 Street Glide with a lithium deltran battery tender. I was a NOCO believer for the first 6 months but started reading that there were lots of problems. Then mine went completely dead and would not reset. And Noco's replacement warranty is garbage.6 weeks to replace! Enough said to take it for what it's worth but be prepared.

 

The oil funnel / dipstick is not under the seat, but rather it is just below the seat on the right hand side on the Breakout. But in order to insert or remove the battery to/from under the seat, the HD user manual says you might have to remove the funnel, so apaprently the clearances are tight enough to make removing the funnel necessary sometimes. But with the 27mm (1-1/16") lower height of the Noco NLP20 battery, the removal of the funnel/dipstick should be unnecessary.

The Noco "kit" includes several plastic and foam spacers to increase the size of the Noco battery to match the size of the OEM battery, where necessary or desirable. On the 2023+ HD Breakout 117, it IS desirable since HD provides a "cage" that holds the OEM size battery. Keeeping the cage is probably desirable in order to limit the oppotunity for the battery to vibrate because of engine vibration.

BUT, the Noco NLP20 requires the use of 2 plastic spacers to do that (a 15mm high spacer and a 12mm high spacer) to add that 27mm of height. Those spacers can simply be inserted first, and then the battery. That provides an extra 27mm of clearance for the battery to clear the dipstick.

Jim G