Rear Belt Pulley Bolts broke loose...WTF
#11
I don't believe that there's anything in the manual that calls for this re-torque and the dealer might use that admission against you.
They could argue that doing this re-torque disturbed the thread lock and this calls for new bolts seeing as these are use once only bolts.
The thread lock compound sets in the absence of air, and if disturbed goes powdery/crumbly losing its properties and locking capability.
During initial install, the thread lock compound is not set/cured and you can get correct torque settings, but once the thread lock has set, you cannot get an accurate torque value on the bolts.
They could argue that doing this re-torque disturbed the thread lock and this calls for new bolts seeing as these are use once only bolts.
The thread lock compound sets in the absence of air, and if disturbed goes powdery/crumbly losing its properties and locking capability.
During initial install, the thread lock compound is not set/cured and you can get correct torque settings, but once the thread lock has set, you cannot get an accurate torque value on the bolts.
#12
Critical Fastener list says to inspect belt and pulley. Since I have seen this happen before on older bikes, I made it a habit to check them every service using minimal torque specs when I had the Street Bob. At minimal specs, bolt should not move. If it does, we have an issue.
On the Lo, the bolts did not budge, so there is no way I disturbed the locTite. This part of the exercise is only meant to check the bolts to see if they have loosened up. On service intervals I have always gone with minimal torque values so that the locTite is not disturbed.
Old habits of checking every bolt, clamp, belt and screw stick with you no matter what you are servicing.
On the Lo, the bolts did not budge, so there is no way I disturbed the locTite. This part of the exercise is only meant to check the bolts to see if they have loosened up. On service intervals I have always gone with minimal torque values so that the locTite is not disturbed.
Old habits of checking every bolt, clamp, belt and screw stick with you no matter what you are servicing.
#13
Critical Fastener list says to inspect belt and pulley. Since I have seen this happen before on older bikes, I made it a habit to check them every service using minimal torque specs when I had the Street Bob. At minimal specs, bolt should not move. If it does, we have an issue.
On the Lo, the bolts did not budge, so there is no way I disturbed the locTite. This part of the exercise is only meant to check the bolts to see if they have loosened up. On service intervals I have always gone with minimal torque values so that the locTite is not disturbed.
Old habits of checking every bolt, clamp, belt and screw stick with you no matter what you are servicing.
On the Lo, the bolts did not budge, so there is no way I disturbed the locTite. This part of the exercise is only meant to check the bolts to see if they have loosened up. On service intervals I have always gone with minimal torque values so that the locTite is not disturbed.
Old habits of checking every bolt, clamp, belt and screw stick with you no matter what you are servicing.
#14
#15
**** happens things come loose things fall off they break. Sometimes you just hope nothing bad happens. It can happen to any bike there just bolts like any other.
I have to ask "ride it like you stole it" are you beating on it? I know I beat the hell out of mine from time to time
Dealer should still warranty it that's bullshit you paid for a warranty
I have to ask "ride it like you stole it" are you beating on it? I know I beat the hell out of mine from time to time
Dealer should still warranty it that's bullshit you paid for a warranty
I will find out Monday as to what the verdict is and hopefully when I will get it back.
Last edited by Gommee; 06-27-2015 at 10:53 PM.
#16
Had it happen on my 2014 fat boy Lo less than 600 miles on it. They replaced pretty much the whole rear end of the bike except the fender. And it happened to me at 75mph on the freeway thank good my lady and I were safe. But it scared the hell out of me and seeing this scares me all over again hope it's not a trend for the Lo. Here is the link to my thread.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...ing-loose.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/softa...ing-loose.html
Last edited by RickyOrtiz84; 06-28-2015 at 01:08 PM.
#18
Same thing here with the pulley bolts. Bought the bike used with aftermarket wheel sets. The rear pulley bolts backed out and rubbed the swing arm on my 3rd ride. Thought I went through the bike enough but must have missed them. The bolts had anti-sieze in the threads, zero loctite. I ran a tap down to chase the threads in the hub, fortunately looked good. Re torqued with red Loctite and was good to go. Could have been bad, these bolt are about 3" long..
Good luck with your dealer!
Cheers
Good luck with your dealer!
Cheers
#19
Same thing here with the pulley bolts. Bought the bike used with aftermarket wheel sets. The rear pulley bolts backed out and rubbed the swing arm on my 3rd ride. Thought I went through the bike enough but must have missed them. The bolts had anti-sieze in the threads, zero loctite. I ran a tap down to chase the threads in the hub, fortunately looked good. Re torqued with red Loctite and was good to go. Could have been bad, these bolt are about 3" long..
Good luck with your dealer!
Cheers
Good luck with your dealer!
Cheers
#20
My purpose was not to re-torque them, it was to check to see if they had loosened up.
Scares me to think that this has happened on another new Fat Boy Lo.
In the Critical Fasteners list it says to check them, it does not say to re-torque them.
I did not "re-torque" them, I used minimal torque value to see if they were tight, They did not move, so locTite was not disturbed.
This was a common occurrence on Dynas, so I got into the habit of checking to make sure they did not loosen up.
I think what burns me the most is that the dealer warranty guy was trying to find a way out of covering the damage. He did not even ask if anyone got hurt or was not concerned if this was a one time issue or was this going to happen to someone else. The Service Manager asked if I was ok and if anyone was hurt. He also said he had seen this before.
RickyOrtiz84 I am glad no-one was hurt, especially while driving on the freeway.
I count my blessings I was not doing freeway speeds when this happened. I spent most of last year recovering from Bambi jumping in front of me and totaling my Street Bob.
Scares me to think that this has happened on another new Fat Boy Lo.
In the Critical Fasteners list it says to check them, it does not say to re-torque them.
I did not "re-torque" them, I used minimal torque value to see if they were tight, They did not move, so locTite was not disturbed.
This was a common occurrence on Dynas, so I got into the habit of checking to make sure they did not loosen up.
I think what burns me the most is that the dealer warranty guy was trying to find a way out of covering the damage. He did not even ask if anyone got hurt or was not concerned if this was a one time issue or was this going to happen to someone else. The Service Manager asked if I was ok and if anyone was hurt. He also said he had seen this before.
RickyOrtiz84 I am glad no-one was hurt, especially while driving on the freeway.
I count my blessings I was not doing freeway speeds when this happened. I spent most of last year recovering from Bambi jumping in front of me and totaling my Street Bob.
Last edited by Gommee; 06-28-2015 at 09:44 PM.