1982 shovel motor
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1982 shovel motor
Hi I got a 1982 shovel I've torn down but haven't split cases
I wanna freshen it up n get it running to put into a project bike
i measured top of cylinder bore, 3.527" so it's been honed out 0.030"
Local ahop who deals in Pans and shovels strongly recommends buying new cylinders instead of going 0.040"
that would also require me to buy new pistons , what's your take?
Not doing anything special in terms of performperformance Ands EV3 cam
Maybe valve job n clean heads up and new ignition
Any advice will help.
I wanna freshen it up n get it running to put into a project bike
i measured top of cylinder bore, 3.527" so it's been honed out 0.030"
Local ahop who deals in Pans and shovels strongly recommends buying new cylinders instead of going 0.040"
that would also require me to buy new pistons , what's your take?
Not doing anything special in terms of performperformance Ands EV3 cam
Maybe valve job n clean heads up and new ignition
Any advice will help.
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#4
So going new cylinders would be my best bet
When I pulled the nosecone off and removed cams it said andrews EV 3 on them
Interesting
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This is how it works out - stock cam lobe lift give or take a bit is .287 X 1.43 < is the rocker arm ratio becomes a corrected valve lift of 410.41 and that is around the stock lift shovelhead engine
ev 3 i believe from memory is 490 lift - that becomes a lobe lift of .287 X 1.65 < evo rocker ratio = 490.05
now using a ev3 cam that the rollers are way larger then the shovel rollers i did not know how that works but I will take it for what you said
.287 X 1.43 = 410 so the lobe lift is the same but the roller size changes something - but the other thing i have issues with is the size - diameter of the evo lifter is way bigger then a shovel —
picture up the cam and the numbers letters you are reading so i can see what you have and the cam as well as the gear — thanks
ev 3 i believe from memory is 490 lift - that becomes a lobe lift of .287 X 1.65 < evo rocker ratio = 490.05
now using a ev3 cam that the rollers are way larger then the shovel rollers i did not know how that works but I will take it for what you said
.287 X 1.43 = 410 so the lobe lift is the same but the roller size changes something - but the other thing i have issues with is the size - diameter of the evo lifter is way bigger then a shovel —
picture up the cam and the numbers letters you are reading so i can see what you have and the cam as well as the gear — thanks
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This is how it works out - stock cam lobe lift give or take a bit is .287 X 1.43 < is the rocker arm ratio becomes a corrected valve lift of 410.41 and that is around the stock lift shovelhead engine
ev 3 i believe from memory is 490 lift - that becomes a lobe lift of .287 X 1.65 < evo rocker ratio = 490.05
now using a ev3 cam that the rollers are way larger then the shovel rollers i did not know how that works but I will take it for what you said
.287 X 1.43 = 410 so the lobe lift is the same but the roller size changes something - but the other thing i have issues with is the size - diameter of the evo lifter is way bigger then a shovel —
picture up the cam and the numbers letters you are reading so i can see what you have and the cam as well as the gear — thanks
ev 3 i believe from memory is 490 lift - that becomes a lobe lift of .287 X 1.65 < evo rocker ratio = 490.05
now using a ev3 cam that the rollers are way larger then the shovel rollers i did not know how that works but I will take it for what you said
.287 X 1.43 = 410 so the lobe lift is the same but the roller size changes something - but the other thing i have issues with is the size - diameter of the evo lifter is way bigger then a shovel —
picture up the cam and the numbers letters you are reading so i can see what you have and the cam as well as the gear — thanks
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Ya heads are in good shape, they def look they had a refresher
No metal dust that I notice might be the pic.
anyways....there it is
EV 3
so question is do I put that back in or go with a.proper Shovel cam
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Picture up your lifters from the side to see the roller and lifter blocks - something is changed - its a hyd set up or solid
just by looking at the valve springs your in the 425 lift max on a cam - you would need off set top retainers for a bigger cam then that
travel is short in shovels < bottom of the top retainer to the top of the seal installed is travel with the retainer and keys installed and pulled up against the seat
just by looking at the valve springs your in the 425 lift max on a cam - you would need off set top retainers for a bigger cam then that
travel is short in shovels < bottom of the top retainer to the top of the seal installed is travel with the retainer and keys installed and pulled up against the seat
Last edited by johnjzjz; 02-02-2022 at 06:29 AM.
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Picture up your lifters from the side to see the roller and lifter blocks - something is changed - its a hyd set up or solid
just by looking at the valve springs your in the 425 lift max on a cam - you would need off set top retainers for a bigger cam then that
travel is short in shovels < bottom of the top retainer to the top of the seal installed is travel with the retainer and keys installed and pulled up against the seat
just by looking at the valve springs your in the 425 lift max on a cam - you would need off set top retainers for a bigger cam then that
travel is short in shovels < bottom of the top retainer to the top of the seal installed is travel with the retainer and keys installed and pulled up against the seat
we are expecting huge show storm
Like I said
I purchased this engine as is.. that's wh I'm pulling it apart to see what's in it.
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