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Old 10-11-2021, 11:34 AM
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I’m trying to pull the transmission out of a shovel, and I’ve got it almost out. However, I can’t seem to get it past the front of the swingarm. The rear “ear” is contoured very tightly opposite the swingarm. The manual doesn’t mention removing the swingarm. It states to pull the transmission with the mounting plate included. That wouldn’t work because one of the rear mounting bolts from the trans to the plate is directly below the ears for the primary and I really doubt the bolt will clear. What am I missing here? If I have to remove the swingarm, I will, but I’d like to have the chassis be ready to roll around the garage as long as I can. Thanks!
 
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Old 10-11-2021, 12:24 PM
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I was half-right. I couldn’t get that last mount plate bolt free until I took out the bolts holding the trans to it. Even still, the bolt was captive, but at least free from the threads. Anyways, she’s out!
 
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Old 10-11-2021, 01:31 PM
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What ya got in mind for the transmission? Rebuild? All or part?
 
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They come out together on the right side - oil tank and battery box removal is also happening

you can photo the unit pieces and some measurements and the guys willl help you define the issues
 
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Old 10-11-2021, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by panz4ever
What ya got in mind for the transmission? Rebuild? All or part?
I’m swapping the non-original rotary top that was in the bike for a ratchet top that I’m gonna rebuild. Which brings me to my next question…How can I tell which rebuild kit I need? The date code on the trans is X7804. I know that means it’s a 77 transmission, but Jim’s offers two kits for 77. One is the L76-E77 kit (33031-76E) and the other is the late 77-early 79 kit (33031-76L). Is my trans early or late 77? And what are the differences?
 
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Early 77 still had the loose bearings in the countershaft 3-4 gear, late 77 went to caged Torrington bearing. Won't interchange. These guys will help you sort which with the numbers, I don't have the books handy.
 
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Old 10-12-2021, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TwiZted Biker
Early 77 still had the loose bearings in the countershaft 3-4 gear, late 77 went to caged Torrington bearing. Won't interchange. These guys will help you sort which with the numbers, I don't have the books handy.

That's good to know. I'm guessing there's no way to tell what bearings are there until the countershaft is removed? I would like to avoid pulling it apart further until I have the kit. If I can figure it out based solely on the date code, that'd be ideal, so I'll wait for someone to chime in. Thanks.
 
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