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Old 08-20-2023 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Spumoni
I will try backing off the timing - but I also read that having your idle too high can cause dieseling also. My idle was a tad high...

yes, it's an S&S Super E. It only breaks up a little at higher RPM's - that could be the intermediate?
E on a shovel likes .031 intermediate and 68 to 72 main depending on a few things. Get her warmed up, turn the mixture screw both ways till it stumbles then center between 2 points. Kill it then gently seat the screw counting the turns. should 1-1/2 or so out, less the jet is too small. It will want to idle high and run one like the deasiling issue when lean. Shovels like it a hair on the fat side.

Some guys swear by a .0295 jet but I've alway had tuning issues when I tried them on various machines.
 
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Old 08-20-2023 | 04:17 PM
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Ok, this is helpful - I will give this a try.. THANKS!
 
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Old 08-21-2023 | 07:17 AM
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[QUOTE=98hotrodfatboy;21348939]Set idle to 900 rpm.. what ignition are you running.. Also what intermediate jet are you running..

Compu-Fire ignition. Not too sure I understand the advance curve and VOES settings, but I'm simply following the directions. This bike is still a 74 cubic inch.

I will check to see what intermediate I'm running, but it looks like it needs to up a size, exactly as you're describing. My mixture screw was 2-1/2 turns out. (But I want to make sure my timing is in range first.)

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Old 08-21-2023 | 08:52 AM
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2.5 turns out does indicate a small intermediate jet. If I was to guess on a stock 74"er, I'd say it has an .028" intermediate.. That's just a guess though based on my experience with an S&S.. And if so a .0295" should suffice..
Your Compufire ignition uses a static led to set base timing, right? If you followed their directions you should be good.. I used the red Compufire ignition with centrifugal advance on my 76 and must say it worked flawlessly.. I recently gave it to a friend for his shovel because I sold mine..
 
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Old 08-21-2023 | 10:54 AM
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I just pulled out the intermediate... it's a .0295. I guess I'll go up to the .031 which seems odd considering it likes the 66 main much better than the 70.
 
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Old 08-21-2023 | 11:28 AM
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Have you checked the passages for the intermediate circuit to make sure nothing is plugged.. Including the jet? And as TwiZted said maybe it just likes a.031"..
 
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Old 08-21-2023 | 12:17 PM
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I will check for blockages just to be sure, but it's a brand new carb, and a brand new rebuild with 400 miles! Hopefully TwiZted is right....

Thanks again!

 
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Old 08-21-2023 | 03:17 PM
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I've always been told by some of the best.. You need to give the motor what it wants.. Not what you think it should be ..
 
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Old 08-22-2023 | 09:45 PM
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Good one! I'll definitely remember that.

I went up on step to the larger .031 intermediate, and now the bile likes to be at 1.5 turns out, so at least I know I'm using the right sized intermediate. The bike still breaks up at higher RPM's but it seems to have improved. I will forget everything I think I know about intermediate and main jetting, and throw logic out the window. I'll try going up from my 66 main to a 70 and see if that clears up the issue.
 
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Old 08-23-2023 | 06:37 AM
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I put together a 76' that had not run in 4 years and had a Super E. Had a mid-range break up so I started playing with an increase in intermediate and main jets. All along it had a bad spark plug wire end that seemed to work but wasn't snug on the plug. I had ordered new ones but received the wrong set and waited a week to reorder. Wouldn't you know after I got the new wires on I ended up back with the original jetting.
I swore it was a mixture break up.
 


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