Oil Shut off valve
#31
Final resolution and suggestion
Thanks for all the input.
I thought about it and decided you were all RIGHT.
First....I lapped and reset the ball valve. Installed a new ball, and a new spring from JP cycles. Actually, I believe I may have had the wrong spring in place which may have contributed to the problem. I keep all those ball valves and springs in a parts bin drawer and there may have been some cross pollination!!!!!!
I made a simple grinder by welding a new ball valve on the end of a short piece of 1/4 in stock. It worked very well. You can actually see the ring around the ball where the valve seat was smoothed.
After that.....DID add a shut off!!!! See pics below.
I experimented with several valves. Finally, I decided the plumbing department at Lowes had exactly what i was looking for. I bought a 3/8 two way straight through gate valve from Lowes along with a couple of male to 3/8 hose connectors. It was very easy to install and it works PERFECTLY. I opted for the blue handle since it matches the blue oil filter hanging off the front of the bike.
And since unlike fine wine, my memory isn't getting better with age, I wanted something that would be pretty obvious. When the blue handle is sticking OUT, and touching my thigh, it is CLOSED. When pushed in and pointing at the pump it is OPEN.
The next two pictures show how it looks on the bike. I think it looks pretty cool and I like it. Kind of ART DECO; mechanical and functional. My old horse isn't a beaty queent anyway. All function.
BUT, I did want to give it a steam punk kind of look and tried to make a heavy equipment hydraulic valve work. The last two pics are of that valve. I did not mount it because it is kind of big and heavy. Also, I needed to go to NAPA and have them make some fittings. I am actually considering going to solid steel oil lines....If I do that I will have NAPA make me all the fittings...Maybe next year. The last two pics are to give you an idea of the "Steam Punk" look.
I thought about it and decided you were all RIGHT.
First....I lapped and reset the ball valve. Installed a new ball, and a new spring from JP cycles. Actually, I believe I may have had the wrong spring in place which may have contributed to the problem. I keep all those ball valves and springs in a parts bin drawer and there may have been some cross pollination!!!!!!
I made a simple grinder by welding a new ball valve on the end of a short piece of 1/4 in stock. It worked very well. You can actually see the ring around the ball where the valve seat was smoothed.
After that.....DID add a shut off!!!! See pics below.
I experimented with several valves. Finally, I decided the plumbing department at Lowes had exactly what i was looking for. I bought a 3/8 two way straight through gate valve from Lowes along with a couple of male to 3/8 hose connectors. It was very easy to install and it works PERFECTLY. I opted for the blue handle since it matches the blue oil filter hanging off the front of the bike.
And since unlike fine wine, my memory isn't getting better with age, I wanted something that would be pretty obvious. When the blue handle is sticking OUT, and touching my thigh, it is CLOSED. When pushed in and pointing at the pump it is OPEN.
The next two pictures show how it looks on the bike. I think it looks pretty cool and I like it. Kind of ART DECO; mechanical and functional. My old horse isn't a beaty queent anyway. All function.
BUT, I did want to give it a steam punk kind of look and tried to make a heavy equipment hydraulic valve work. The last two pics are of that valve. I did not mount it because it is kind of big and heavy. Also, I needed to go to NAPA and have them make some fittings. I am actually considering going to solid steel oil lines....If I do that I will have NAPA make me all the fittings...Maybe next year. The last two pics are to give you an idea of the "Steam Punk" look.
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rockher_man (07-27-2019)
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#33
Ah... that valves on a vent line not the feed to the pump and secondly skip the welding BS as the ball is never centered correctly and will wobble out the seat worse, just find an EVO pushrod. The ball on the end is the same diameter as the check ball and it's true when lapping.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
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#35
Ah... that valves on a vent line not the feed to the pump and secondly skip the welding BS as the ball is never centered correctly and will wobble out the seat worse, just find an EVO pushrod. The ball on the end is the same diameter as the check ball and it's true when lapping.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
That's what a get for doing this from memory. THAT will get fixed tomorrow. And YES.......I do feel like a moron.
Thanks for pointing that out.
The red on my exhaust pipe? Thats high temp gasket seal. Been using that crap for years and years. But hell, I"ll try something new.
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#37
Ah... that valves on a vent line not the feed to the pump and secondly skip the welding BS as the ball is never centered correctly and will wobble out the seat worse, just find an EVO pushrod. The ball on the end is the same diameter as the check ball and it's true when lapping.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
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rockher_man (07-27-2019)
#38
Ah... that valves on a vent line not the feed to the pump and secondly skip the welding BS as the ball is never centered correctly and will wobble out the seat worse, just find an EVO pushrod. The ball on the end is the same diameter as the check ball and it's true when lapping.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
Lastly, Dude, the red silicon ? seriously ? Clean that **** and use a little Permatex Ultra gray, it blends and seals better, doesn't stink something's burning for couple weeks and doesn't look like an over budweisered redneck got busy after a little nose candy.
Last edited by john lee; 07-20-2019 at 05:28 AM.
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rockher_man (07-27-2019)
#39
we use valve grinding compound to lap the ball - I am sure some morons think that's just fine to do it that way with the oil pump installed
they also make a tool we have that drops into the ball slot and re sets it buy pressing it - its a screw and special nut thing and it turns over as some are different
JUST know - the hitting the ball idea while it works on some it also cracks the oil pumps seat on others = Caution should be used with a hammer and an oil pump are concerned
they also make a tool we have that drops into the ball slot and re sets it buy pressing it - its a screw and special nut thing and it turns over as some are different
JUST know - the hitting the ball idea while it works on some it also cracks the oil pumps seat on others = Caution should be used with a hammer and an oil pump are concerned
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Racepres (07-20-2019)
#40
we use valve grinding compound to lap the ball - I am sure some morons think that's just fine to do it that way with the oil pump installed
they also make a tool we have that drops into the ball slot and re sets it buy pressing it - its a screw and special nut thing and it turns over as some are different
JUST know - the hitting the ball idea while it works on some it also cracks the oil pumps seat on others = Caution should be used with a hammer and an oil pump are concerned
they also make a tool we have that drops into the ball slot and re sets it buy pressing it - its a screw and special nut thing and it turns over as some are different
JUST know - the hitting the ball idea while it works on some it also cracks the oil pumps seat on others = Caution should be used with a hammer and an oil pump are concerned