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Old 06-04-2018, 05:02 AM
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Hello gents. Back at it. 1976 FXE 1200. New pistons, rings, bored .30, heads cleaned up, with 350-400 miles on it since work done. Starts right up with a good kick, runs awesome and sounds great. No running issues what so ever. My plugs however are burning a bit differently. The REAR cylinder plug is looking fouled and kinda has carbon OR oil “caked” on it on one side and the other side of plug looks clean. The FRONT looks like its burning very clean maybe even lean. Let me know what you think if you could and/or what could be causing the difference in plugs. Its my first shovel so learning as I go. Here are some pics below. NO smoke or symptoms at all coming out of rear cylinder (fouled plug) no back fire or popping etc. thanks in advance!!

On a side not I have been pretty easy on her and havent Really opened her being new motor work. Maybe it’s time to give her a good rip and blow her out? Thinking of tinkering with air/fuel mixture.

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second/third pic : REAR cylinder
 
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Old 06-04-2018, 05:13 AM
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I chased my problem with fouled plugs all over the place and it turned out to be an intake leak.
 
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I chased my problem with fouled plugs all over the place and it turned out to be an intake leak.

hmmm ok I’ll have to check it out. I installed it all but wondering if a seal didn’t sit as it should on the intake. How would I know? Just take it off and re install it? Thanks!
 

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while it's running spray the intake seals with carb cleaner/brake cleaner/WD40. You'll know right away.
 
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Originally Posted by pjb
while it's running spray the intake seals with carb cleaner/brake cleaner/WD40. You'll know right away.

ok will do. Ok a side note... my front exhaust has the “sag in it” bc of the one bolt mounting style... could I use an exhaust sealer like “accosta seal” or high temp silicon to fix that. I’m not sure if there is an exhaust leak bc of it but wanna be sure. Tried the evo gasket crunch method but didn’t like it at all.
 
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Originally Posted by pjb
while it's running spray the intake seals with carb cleaner/brake cleaner/WD40. You'll know right away.
Be VERY careful using Brake Clean.
The chemical in the brake cleaner is Tetrachloroethylene. When this chemical is exposed with excessive heat (used in welding, and combustion chambers) it can produce phosgene.

Some Phosgene facts. Google Phosgene and read more!

It can be fatal with a dose as little as 4 parts per million.

Symptoms can be delayed from 6-48 hours after exposure.

There is NO antidote for Phosgene.

Long term effects can be chronic bronchitis and emphysema.
 

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its a valve seal
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
its a valve seal
if it is in fact a valve seal... wre you referring to the fouled plug in the rear? And if so... is that something I can let go for a little bit and just clean plugs or will further damage occur?
 
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the under side of the front plugs electrode has oil crust on it to as well = I would check both heads

today nothing fits like it had in the past don't know if you put a cam in the engine when you did the heads but today that changes everything

if you did guides then to expect the top the place the seal goes / on might be taller / most actually are this way today - and if so then the travel or the distance between the bottom of the top retainer and the top of the seal installed - may not have enough distance and it bottoms causing a new seal to be damaged --------- you get the rest
 
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I believe John is spot on... That is Oil on the rear plug...
 
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