71 FLH Shovelhead
#851
I read about dry and wet sump systems and understand the differences and its benefits a little better. I am sure you know dry sumps systems too well being a racer.
Before I suck oil out of the tank....In your statement above, is it supposed to read ".....Only check oil level when heat soaked" or ".....Only never check oil level when heat soaked"?
Will check the return after I get the oil level corrected which I presume is the top line on the dipstick or 1" from the top of the tank..
Also, pm me your name and address and I will send you the toe shifter with pin and the shifter arm if you still want it. My foot rests fine with the heel-toe shifter and I will get used to shifting with the heal...I can always use the toe in the interim.
Before I suck oil out of the tank....In your statement above, is it supposed to read ".....Only check oil level when heat soaked" or ".....Only never check oil level when heat soaked"?
Will check the return after I get the oil level corrected which I presume is the top line on the dipstick or 1" from the top of the tank..
Also, pm me your name and address and I will send you the toe shifter with pin and the shifter arm if you still want it. My foot rests fine with the heel-toe shifter and I will get used to shifting with the heal...I can always use the toe in the interim.
Oil on the stick???... I ride it.... Better yet, if there is some halfway up the stick... ... Too high? Nope I won't fill beyond at least an Inch down... when Hot.
BTW I haven't checked in a Long While... But I do Not believe anyone ever stuffed 4 Quarts into a Stock Shovelhead oil tank... Like I said...I rarely get 3...
Last edited by Racepres; 04-27-2019 at 07:17 AM.
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hscic (04-27-2019)
#853
I think any Dry Sump lubrication system is the same... starting with early Aircraft!! And of Course...Harleys... Remembering the very early ones had No Sump... Pump oil in by Hand pump and ***** it out onto the ground when Done with it...Quite a Simple [tho messy] system...
Last edited by Racepres; 04-27-2019 at 07:49 AM.
#854
Don't know of any Dry sump Car... But I ain't about Cars in any way...
I think any Dry Sump lubrication system is the same... starting with early Aircraft!! And of Course...Harleys... Remembering the very early ones had No Sump... Pump oil in by Hand pump and ***** it out onto the ground when Done with it...Quite a Simple [tho messy] system...
I think any Dry Sump lubrication system is the same... starting with early Aircraft!! And of Course...Harleys... Remembering the very early ones had No Sump... Pump oil in by Hand pump and ***** it out onto the ground when Done with it...Quite a Simple [tho messy] system...
#855
hellonewman,
Maybe this will help Ya understand things.
In a wet sump system, the oil pump sucks oil from the bottom of the oil pan through a tube, and then pumps it to the rest of the engine.
In a dry sump system, oil is stored in a tank outside the engine rather than using a oil pan.
Not busting Your chops Sir..just You've got it backwards.
All Vettes are wet sump from the factory..Fords too.
Real Harley's (Ironheads and Shovelheads) are dry sump...even those fancy Evos..
Maybe this will help Ya understand things.
In a wet sump system, the oil pump sucks oil from the bottom of the oil pan through a tube, and then pumps it to the rest of the engine.
In a dry sump system, oil is stored in a tank outside the engine rather than using a oil pan.
Not busting Your chops Sir..just You've got it backwards.
All Vettes are wet sump from the factory..Fords too.
Real Harley's (Ironheads and Shovelheads) are dry sump...even those fancy Evos..
Last edited by 60weight; 04-27-2019 at 11:44 AM.
#856
99.5% of the cars on the road are wet sump....I am sure twinkieman knows dry sump only exists in performance cars like Ferrari and Corvertte to name a couple and represent only .5% of the cars on the road with dry sump systems....which is why I said Race knows dry sump too well being a racer.
okay so I will do the following based on feedback:
Ride to oil is hot
Check level on kickstand and suck out oil to top line of dip stick (I am visual and don't know where the heck 1" from top of tank is....IMO better to have more than less since I don't have blow-by or puking)
btw I checked my catch can yesterday and no oil present so it ain't coming out of the breather
Remove filler cap and check to see if it returns oil by turning the motor without starting
Since my screw to access the crankcase oil screen is frozen, will clean out the screen when I am able to get the screw free .....is the thread standard (loosen counter-clockwise)? I plan to use an impact.
Anything refutable?
okay so I will do the following based on feedback:
Ride to oil is hot
Check level on kickstand and suck out oil to top line of dip stick (I am visual and don't know where the heck 1" from top of tank is....IMO better to have more than less since I don't have blow-by or puking)
btw I checked my catch can yesterday and no oil present so it ain't coming out of the breather
Remove filler cap and check to see if it returns oil by turning the motor without starting
Since my screw to access the crankcase oil screen is frozen, will clean out the screen when I am able to get the screw free .....is the thread standard (loosen counter-clockwise)? I plan to use an impact.
Anything refutable?
Last edited by hscic; 04-27-2019 at 10:38 AM.
#857
Be careful using a impact,how about a 12" long flat screwdriver..sideways? Ya don't want to crack Her cases..
And I think Ya can check oil return flow to Her tank while Shes idling.
Even rev up a bit to see(it dribbles at idle). Not a lot of pressure in the oil tank at low RPMs.
And yes its counter-clockwise. Id sure visually check Her return flow..especially until You get
the screw busted loose to clean/replace Her screen.
Now if Ive upset anyone..Ill shut up and leave..
And I think Ya can check oil return flow to Her tank while Shes idling.
Even rev up a bit to see(it dribbles at idle). Not a lot of pressure in the oil tank at low RPMs.
And yes its counter-clockwise. Id sure visually check Her return flow..especially until You get
the screw busted loose to clean/replace Her screen.
Now if Ive upset anyone..Ill shut up and leave..
Last edited by 60weight; 04-27-2019 at 11:42 AM.
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hscic (04-27-2019)
#858
Be careful using a impact,how about a 12" long flat screwdriver..sideways? Ya don't want to crack Her cases..
And I think Ya can check oil return flow to Her tank while Shes idling.
Even rev up a bit to see(it dribbles at idle). Not a lot of pressure in the oil tank at low RPMs.
And yes its counter-clockwise. Id sure visually check Her return flow..especially until You get
the screw busted loose to clean/replace Her screen.
Now if Ive upset anyone..Ill shut up and leave..
And I think Ya can check oil return flow to Her tank while Shes idling.
Even rev up a bit to see(it dribbles at idle). Not a lot of pressure in the oil tank at low RPMs.
And yes its counter-clockwise. Id sure visually check Her return flow..especially until You get
the screw busted loose to clean/replace Her screen.
Now if Ive upset anyone..Ill shut up and leave..
I will try the sideways flathead screwdriver....never tried it that way.
Last edited by hscic; 04-27-2019 at 12:18 PM.
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60weight (04-27-2019)
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