Thanks for all the input everyone.

 

I don't think you'll be disappointed going from a built 128 to a CVO 121 VVT stage 1, The VVT will give you a broad power band and it will run a lot cooler. You will also get better mileage and reliability.

I can appreciate your concerns about possibly being disappointed with the performance of the new 121, I had the same concerns.

I've been riding a 2017 RGS with what started out as an early 107 M8. I upgraded the motor to a FM 124 with a WM8-408 cam, Level A heads, throttle body and injectors making 150/140 (HP/TQ). I also upgraded the suspension with Legends front and rear.

When I compared apples to apples on the dyno charts, my 124 was marginally better than the new 121.

I recently took delivery of a new 2024 CVO Road Glide ST, and I can honestly tell you I don't feel like I'm missing much in the area of performance. The bike is new, and it has been difficult observing the RPM limitations during the break-in period. The dealer did the initial break in for me on the dyno for the first fifty miles, so I didn't need to worry about the 3000 RPM limit, but it was still hard to keep it under 3500. The bike just wants to run! The CVO RGST is geared lower than the other touring models in the transmission and in the final gearing, so it winds up pretty quickly. I'm still being pretty gentle with it, so I haven't wound it out yet, but I can tell it just wants to run! The lower gearing doesn't seem to compromise the fuel economy, but then again, I haven't been winding it out in the higher RPMs either.

We are keeping the 2017 RGS that was built out (30,000 miles on the build) for riding two up. My wife and I love that bike and we'll still enjoy riding it for two up rides, and I'll have the CVO RGST for solo sport riding.

BTW, the CVO RG ST loves to corner!

Good luck with your decision!

 

It's not just the new CVO's. Both of my CVO bikes have the 122" stage 3 and I have always felt it was plenty of power. I just bought a '24 road glide standard with the 117. It's the first HD I ever bought where i did not immediately feel I needed to do something to the motor.

 

I have 4k miles on my 23.5 CVO. just did trip to canada - lots of torque and pull throughout the range. when I was passing cars, a built 131 RK special that was also on our trip was lagging behind me. love my CVO road glide. putting t-bars and then done. I'll do the bars myself - HD says 7+ hours of labor. crazy.

and the bike runs cool. no heat at all that i've noticed.

 

Had the 10K service done on Monday. The 23.5 CVO is nice bike, I'm use to riding built bikes, but this stock motor does a pretty good job.

 

As I’ve gotten older, hotrodding motors has become less important. I’m fine with my bone stock 2022 cvo rgl. Only thing I’ve done mechanically is Slipons. Just rode 1200 miles in Colorado and Utah and was happy with the bike as it was!

 

I agree. My ‘22 is the first Harley I’m leaving completely stock; even the mufflers LOL!

 

Update, I ended up picking up buying a 2024 CVO Road Glide in Legendary Orange and it’s an amazing bike. The paint job is absolutely stunning In person. The ride, brakes, handling, power and display are way beyond my 2020 CVO Street Glide when it was stock. This motor feels way snappier then the dyno numbers suggest. The bike is really easy to ride very fast. The front end is so tight, planted and controlled. I ended up putting the new RWD RS2 HD shocks on it and they are definitely better than the RS1 shocks on my 2020 which I already loved! Now the upgrades start🤣 I’ve already added Krome Werks 4.5 HP mufflers that sound great, a Harley Davidson sundowner CVO style heated seat, 3/4 inch floor board spacers, tour pack with matched lock and CVO style backrest pad, highway peg mounts and pegs, Freedom Shield 13 inch dark smoke shield, Rockford Fosgate stage 3 rear speakers, Yaffe flush mount plate bracket and passenger floor boards. It never ends, the only thing left to do is remove the cat and get a tune. The OEM power is very good but when a cam upgrade and real tuner become available I might consider upgrading. I really want to keep the linear power of the VVT.

 

Nice! SHow us some pics.....

 

Photos so I can see if it is a PURDY as my Legendary Orange '24 Road Glide.