Primary/Transmission/Driveline/Clutch Find answers to general powertrain, primary and transmission. Have clutch issues and need suggestions? Post them here.

Clutch Adjustment By The Book

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #201  
Old 08-30-2021, 12:41 PM
brakeless's Avatar
brakeless
brakeless is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: NorCal
Posts: 5,668
Received 5,688 Likes on 2,725 Posts
Default

Nice bike! We all love pictures too! Looks okay to me. The only thing I can say at this point is you must have had something off the 1st go round. Also just an fyi, your settings are prolly okay with a stock clutch. Some aftermarket clutches require different setting. For example, my bike with an Energy1 extra plate needs to be set only 1/8 turn out at the clutch pack. You may experiment with different settings on yours like 1/2 turn out just be aware that will make the clutch engage further away from the grip. As for the cable adjustment you can go 1/16" to 1/8" with no problem. Glad you got it solved!
 
  #202  
Old 10-31-2021, 07:44 PM
JimmyJuice's Avatar
JimmyJuice
JimmyJuice is offline
Stage II
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Same sort of issue, sort of

Clutch cable issue.
So I’m a long time reader, first time caller here. Had put on a new clutch cable on my street glide 103. Worked perfect. Swapped out my stock levers for Poison Scorpion levers. Front brake went on fine, works fine. Clutch lever went on fine, ZERO PULL resistance. Re-Adjusted slack, hard as hell to pull and the pull feels like the cable isn’t sliding through the cable housing and more like it’s snagged up and the pull i do get is just me stretching the tiny bit of slack in the cableitself.super wierd being how all I did was loosen the cable, swapp lever and re tighten cable. Check trans side cover, cable still connected and engagement ramp functioning too. and functioning. Anyone ever have an issue like this
 
  #203  
Old 11-01-2021, 08:13 AM
Dan89FLSTC's Avatar
Dan89FLSTC
Dan89FLSTC is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Veteran: Navy
Join Date: May 2008
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 18,649
Received 9,435 Likes on 5,026 Posts
Default

Did you adjust the clutch at the adjustment stud underneath the derby cover?
 
  #204  
Old 11-07-2021, 07:31 AM
MikieT's Avatar
MikieT
MikieT is offline
Cruiser
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 115
Received 17 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

That 1/2 to 1 turn is huge, remember, the rod pushes plate for clutch to "open" more play less open, I find 1/4 to not exceed 1/2 is optimal
 
The following users liked this post:
brakeless (05-29-2023)
  #205  
Old 05-29-2023, 12:23 PM
Bigdoginottawa's Avatar
Bigdoginottawa
Bigdoginottawa is offline
Stage IV
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Clutch Adustment

At the Clutch Pack:

The adjustment of the nut in the clutch pack alters where the friction zone ends up on the lever on the bars, i.e., clutch lever engages close to the hand grip or almost all the way released from the hand grip.

The clutch adjuster screw adjusts the point at which the cable begins to pull the clutch out of engagement. If you turn the clutch adjuster screw clockwise, you adjust toward slippage, if you turn it counter clockwise, you increase the slack before disengagement (drag). If the adjustment screw is turned too far clockwise, the clutch will be disengaged or slip no matter what position the cable is in. If the adjustment screw is too far counter clockwise, the clutch will drag because you cannot, regardless of how much slack you remove at the lever, disengage it enough to remove the contact. Note that this may lead to the "welding" of the clutch components.

The service manual recommends 1/2 to 1 counterclockwise turn after turning the adjuster screw clockwise to lightly seat the screw.

Following the procedures in the service manual:

· 1/2 turn counter clockwise the clutch will engage further from handgrip as you release the lever. Turning the adjusting screw 1 turn, you will feel the clutch engages closer to the handgrip as you release the lever.

· 1/8 to 1/4 turn of the adjusting screw reduces your friction zone, with the clutch lever almost all the way out from handgrip before clutch engages.

· 1/2 turn is the stock adjustment, which is just fine for most riders. It insures friction disc separation, clutch disengagement - which provides smooth shifting and finding neutral.

· 3/4 to 1 full turn, the clutch lever releases close to the grip. It may not give you good separation of the discs resulting in difficult shifting, creeping of the bike in gear, harder finding neutral and faster clutch disc wear.

· A motor officer will have their clutch adjustment screw turned 3/4 to 1 full turn from being lightly seated to have their friction zone beginning close to the handgrip during their rodeo exhibitions.

When turning the clutch adjustment screw; you are adjusting the push tube and setting where the ball and ramps start to disengage the clutch. The release bearing is also known as the “throw out bearing” (on the right side of bike). When you pull in your clutch lever you are compressing the clutch springs allowing the clutch plates to disengage. Imagine a rod (pushrod) pushing on something that is spinning - if there wasn't a bearing (throw out) the rod wouldn't last too long.

At the Lever:

Use the cable adjuster to increase/decrease slack at the hand lever to about 1/16" to 1/8". Too much slack and clutch may drag/too tight and clutch may slip. If free play between end of cable ferrule and clutch lever bracket is more than 1/8" at the handlebar, the clutch may not fully disengage.

Most Harley Davidson lever positions are set at about 1/8" of clutch lever spacing. However, the best positioning of the lever is where it works best for you - as long as it still "works" or gives you the best control over the clutch's operation.

There are boundaries you want to stay within. Do not adjust the lever too tight where it will slip, or too loose where it will not disengage all the way. Keep the lever clean and lubricated, including the lever pivot pin.
 
The following users liked this post:
Ddieselsmoke (08-27-2023)
  #206  
Old 05-29-2023, 12:29 PM
brakeless's Avatar
brakeless
brakeless is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: May 2017
Location: NorCal
Posts: 5,668
Received 5,688 Likes on 2,725 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MikieT
That 1/2 to 1 turn is huge, remember, the rod pushes plate for clutch to "open" more play less open, I find 1/4 to not exceed 1/2 is optimal
Yep, all good with the stock clutch on those larger limits. I have a Energy 1 extra plate clutch with a non stick diaphragm spring. I adjust mine 1/4 turn out.
 
  #207  
Old 08-23-2023, 03:00 PM
2whlr4life's Avatar
2whlr4life
2whlr4life is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: On one of 10,000
Posts: 5,627
Received 2,684 Likes on 1,519 Posts
Arrow Love these Stickey's

Two touring bikes, 2 clutches.
I always peek at this b4 adjustment. My bike I can do blind folded.
My wifes older Electra Glide standard (FLHT) is fussy.

I didn't need it this time, but still looking for my 10mm wrench.
 
  #208  
Old 08-29-2023, 08:52 PM
cking866's Avatar
cking866
cking866 is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Mar 2023
Location: Indiana
Posts: 13
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I have a '23 FLHP with 2800 miles. I had some excess free play at my clutch lever (about 1/4"-3/8") and tried to adjust it using the method Doc Harley advised in a youtube video www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZILUb8CWQ4k. The free play is gone at the lever, but I must have done something wrong because now the clutch will not disengage even when the lever is fully against the hand grip. In other words, the engine dies as soon as I put it in gear. How screwed am I? Any suggestions for a fix short of 1) going through the full procedures outlined in the service manual; or 2) hauling it to a dealership?
 
  #209  
Old 08-29-2023, 09:43 PM
Max Headflow's Avatar
Max Headflow
Max Headflow is online now
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: poway
Posts: 17,232
Received 6,018 Likes on 4,065 Posts
Default

Not screwed enough.. Back off the lock nut when adjusting the center adjuster.
 
The following users liked this post:
cking866 (09-02-2023)
  #210  
Old 08-31-2023, 03:34 AM
kpv85's Avatar
kpv85
kpv85 is offline
Stage I
Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by HDCopper
Hogdoctor, should the bike be in nueutral when adjusting the clutch or does it matter?

Is there a chance of the cable not being seated right in the ball-n-ramp setup in the transmission side cover. After I adjusted the clutch this last time the clutch lever won't come all the way back to the grip when pulled in and feels tight. I have lubed it and it shifts gears fine and doesn't grip forward at traffic lights with the clutch pulled in while in gear.
so does it matter if your in neutral or a gear when adjusting?
 


Quick Reply: Clutch Adjustment By The Book



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:06 PM.