Buying a panhead
#1
Buying a panhead
Hi guys, I'm about a year out from looking at buying a panhead. The bikes in Australia are prohibitively expensive for me so I'm looking at bikes in America. The question I've got is about the large variance in prices. I'm seeing 65 pans for sale on oodle for under 5k and then some for sale in excess of 30k. Can anyone explain to me what gives? Cheers, Bill.
#2
oodle allows nigerian kings to place scam adds so some one REAALL stupid thinks that the price they are selling the stuff for is real
the USA is also in a price jump its all because of the TV shows like the two mooks in a truck traviling, making junk buys for 10 bucks and are making a killing like someone believes that - yea they do its TV > NOPE its also a scam its all pre set up - they came to jersey and want to fake buy a 1907 Indain for 20,000 and have every one think they hit a score again its fake TV
the USA is also in a price jump its all because of the TV shows like the two mooks in a truck traviling, making junk buys for 10 bucks and are making a killing like someone believes that - yea they do its TV > NOPE its also a scam its all pre set up - they came to jersey and want to fake buy a 1907 Indain for 20,000 and have every one think they hit a score again its fake TV
#3
Like johnjzjz said, the oodle stuff is for the most part complete crap. And one of the problems is that if someone is selling their old iron at a certain price, some nimrod will quote from an oodle add that shows a similar bike at a ridiculously low price as a counter offer.
You can find decent priced old iron in the USA but you need someone to look at it for you to ensure it is what is pictured or being 'sold as'. Phony vin numbers is the biggest issue on old iron IMO anyway. Right behind are the for sale 'restored' models that are nothing but Tawain Ted bittsa bikes.
Not sure but living down under isn't there a huge tariff on imported bikes? That couold drive the price of your purchase beyond what you mighty for a bike already available to you in your area.
You can find decent priced old iron in the USA but you need someone to look at it for you to ensure it is what is pictured or being 'sold as'. Phony vin numbers is the biggest issue on old iron IMO anyway. Right behind are the for sale 'restored' models that are nothing but Tawain Ted bittsa bikes.
Not sure but living down under isn't there a huge tariff on imported bikes? That couold drive the price of your purchase beyond what you mighty for a bike already available to you in your area.
#4
Thanks guys. There is no compliance required for pre 74 bikes. All I need to pay is import duty at 10%. What would you guys think would be an average price for a pan? I know there are a lot of variables but give us your best crystal ball guess. Cheers.
QUOTE=panz4ever;13168432]Like johnjzjz said, the oodle stuff is for the most part complete crap. And one of the problems is that if someone is selling their old iron at a certain price, some nimrod will quote from an oodle add that shows a similar bike at a ridiculously low price as a counter offer.
You can find decent priced old iron in the USA but you need someone to look at it for you to ensure it is what is pictured or being 'sold as'. Phony vin numbers is the biggest issue on old iron IMO anyway. Right behind are the for sale 'restored' models that are nothing but Tawain Ted bittsa bikes.
Not sure but living down under isn't there a huge tariff on imported bikes? That couold drive the price of your purchase beyond what you mighty for a bike already available to you in your area.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=panz4ever;13168432]Like johnjzjz said, the oodle stuff is for the most part complete crap. And one of the problems is that if someone is selling their old iron at a certain price, some nimrod will quote from an oodle add that shows a similar bike at a ridiculously low price as a counter offer.
You can find decent priced old iron in the USA but you need someone to look at it for you to ensure it is what is pictured or being 'sold as'. Phony vin numbers is the biggest issue on old iron IMO anyway. Right behind are the for sale 'restored' models that are nothing but Tawain Ted bittsa bikes.
Not sure but living down under isn't there a huge tariff on imported bikes? That couold drive the price of your purchase beyond what you mighty for a bike already available to you in your area.[/QUOTE]
#5
A lot of variables...original paint unmolested will always be top dollar, certain year models seem to up the anty as well. With that said a good looking mutt that is all together and rideable can be had in the 7.5K range in California.
#6
Damn you got my juices going now, would like to see some of these then.
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#8
Hey if your still looking for a pan I have a 65 that's pretty much brand new.
Im asking $8,500 and its worth every penny of that. New wires spoke rims, new white wall tires, new sprockets and chain, new drag pipes, new oil tank, new transmission complete(the case was cracked and that was the only one I could find) new generator complete ( the old one wasn't rebuildable) Engine rebuild with new cases ( S&S cases, unable to find new ones from Harley) New voltage reg. rewired complete, got rid of the points and condenser and installed a Mallory point less distributor. Got tired of the primary leaking so I installed a DRY belt driven primary, also installed a new clutch complete at the time. There is probably more that I have forgotten
Im asking $8,500 and its worth every penny of that. New wires spoke rims, new white wall tires, new sprockets and chain, new drag pipes, new oil tank, new transmission complete(the case was cracked and that was the only one I could find) new generator complete ( the old one wasn't rebuildable) Engine rebuild with new cases ( S&S cases, unable to find new ones from Harley) New voltage reg. rewired complete, got rid of the points and condenser and installed a Mallory point less distributor. Got tired of the primary leaking so I installed a DRY belt driven primary, also installed a new clutch complete at the time. There is probably more that I have forgotten
#9
Buying old iron is risky, Bikes have been around the block too many times, torn down, cobbled together and who knows what. fakes and rip offs galore. Do not jump in without knowledge, know your numbers and what parts should look like for the model year your looking at. a Fun rider that looks and runs good for a decent price is one thing, but if your paying top dollar for a Pan you better know what your looking at.
My 56 is not all original, its all harley but its a bike built from pieces, The front end is off a Servi-car, engine,frame and trans are all from different bikes. The belly numbers match but are weird and some stampings are missing from the cases. When I bought the bike the top end burnt up in 40 miles because the engine was put together with a cylinder base gasket meant for a shovel. I have completely gone through the bike now down to split cases, its a good runner and to an untrained eye, looks to be an original bike.
My 56 is not all original, its all harley but its a bike built from pieces, The front end is off a Servi-car, engine,frame and trans are all from different bikes. The belly numbers match but are weird and some stampings are missing from the cases. When I bought the bike the top end burnt up in 40 miles because the engine was put together with a cylinder base gasket meant for a shovel. I have completely gone through the bike now down to split cases, its a good runner and to an untrained eye, looks to be an original bike.
#10
Buying old iron is risky, Bikes have been around the block too many times, torn down, cobbled together and who knows what. fakes and rip offs galore. Do not jump in without knowledge, know your numbers and what parts should look like for the model year your looking at. a Fun rider that looks and runs good for a decent price is one thing, but if your paying top dollar for a Pan you better know what your looking at.
My 56 is not all original, its all harley but its a bike built from pieces, The front end is off a Servi-car, engine,frame and trans are all from different bikes. The belly numbers match but are weird and some stampings are missing from the cases. When I bought the bike the top end burnt up in 40 miles because the engine was put together with a cylinder base gasket meant for a shovel. I have completely gone through the bike now down to split cases, its a good runner and to an untrained eye, looks to be an original bike.
My 56 is not all original, its all harley but its a bike built from pieces, The front end is off a Servi-car, engine,frame and trans are all from different bikes. The belly numbers match but are weird and some stampings are missing from the cases. When I bought the bike the top end burnt up in 40 miles because the engine was put together with a cylinder base gasket meant for a shovel. I have completely gone through the bike now down to split cases, its a good runner and to an untrained eye, looks to be an original bike.