53 Pan no oil to top end
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hey gilb...one last thing...make sure the cylinder base gaskets do not cover any holes in the top of the case or bottom of your cylinders.
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Think it was 63 that HD went to outside oiler heads, continued on shovel models as well. Yeah holes in cylinder are for oiling top end. Seems like gilb has done all the checks correctly.
hey gilb...one last thing...make sure the cylinder base gaskets do not cover any holes in the top of the case or bottom of your cylinders.
hey gilb...one last thing...make sure the cylinder base gaskets do not cover any holes in the top of the case or bottom of your cylinders.
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I pulled the rear cylinder and the holes in the base gasket match up perfectly. There has to be blockage at some point between the factory drilled oil passage running horizontally thru the tappet screen area, to the oil hole in the rear cylinder. There is a 1/4" plug I can pull out to access that passage, but if the blockage is beyond that, I don't know how to access it.
Haven't heard of plugging anything in the cases, but if you post a pic I will definitely print it and ask a couple of people that I consider reliable.
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I never trusted the internal oil feeds to the top end Back in 74? I re did a pan top end to accept external oil feed lines (Had use of a mill ) I ran a knuck style cam cover with the oil feed coming out of the top back end I do have a tech article from back then on this procedure if you want a copy The topic is shovel pumps for pans Goes into drilling a 3/16 in hole to connect the passage from the pinion shaft oiler to the top end oiler etc etc My 52 pan shovel has this type set up as does the 46 knuck
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Panz, I might be wrong on the 1/4" plug. It looks like when you look down into the tappet screen hole that you can see the oil passage going both ways. I thought if I could gain access I might be able to clean out the blocked passage. I thought it was a plug I could remove, but that's not working out.
Sqdeal, I would like a copy of that article if you could send to harleygilb@gmail.com. Thank You! Maybe I need a hole drilled for that pump to work, however I still think I have blockage I need to deal with, if I stay with the internal oiling.
Sqdeal, I would like a copy of that article if you could send to harleygilb@gmail.com. Thank You! Maybe I need a hole drilled for that pump to work, however I still think I have blockage I need to deal with, if I stay with the internal oiling.
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Gilb, understand what is being offered here but the only time I went with outside oilers (other than stock) was on a 93" pan stroker.
Just for some more reading for ya, go to the S&S website, once there click on
- Tech Info (then click on)
- Instruction Sheets (then click on)
- Engine Kits and Parts (then click on)
- #51-1042/ BT Billet Oil Pump
You can download a PDF file and print. Give you an idea of what is involved with mounting a later style oil pump (S&S...some of which will apply to a shovel oil pup as well) on an early pan motor.
Oh and from my post (#5) that jig was used on a set of STD cases and not OEM cases (looked at the old paperwork/notes to confirm)
Another thought...any chance an extra hole was drilled that should not have been and causing a lack of flow to the top end?
Just for some more reading for ya, go to the S&S website, once there click on
- Tech Info (then click on)
- Instruction Sheets (then click on)
- Engine Kits and Parts (then click on)
- #51-1042/ BT Billet Oil Pump
You can download a PDF file and print. Give you an idea of what is involved with mounting a later style oil pump (S&S...some of which will apply to a shovel oil pup as well) on an early pan motor.
Oh and from my post (#5) that jig was used on a set of STD cases and not OEM cases (looked at the old paperwork/notes to confirm)
Another thought...any chance an extra hole was drilled that should not have been and causing a lack of flow to the top end?
Last edited by panz4ever; 11-13-2010 at 09:50 AM.
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Gilb....Just joined the forum.. Have you looked at the Regulating Valve on the oil pump? I never had 10 psi. kicking the engine over....You have 2 feeds, 1 to your pinion shaft to supply the Rod bearings. The other goes through the Reg. Valve to supply the upper end...You could have oil to 1 and not the other.....Just a thought........