Amsoil - vs - red line oil -vs - royal purple?
#81
04-10-2017, 05:33 AM
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It is a terrible shame mate, i'm from Britain and i got here just in time for the **** to fall out of the economy. it wouldn't be so bad, but one country in particular is pushing the Greeks to adopt financial cut backs and reforms that are impossible to live with. And of course as with everything in life its the poor buggers at the bottom of the ladder that get hit the worse.,,,,
#82
04-10-2017, 08:36 AM
OK, I'll type slower. "After seeing the maintenance records" showing the owner was actually stupid enough to change oil at 25,000 mi intervals, nobody will want the vehicle. If "after seeing the maintenance records" the owner changed oil at 3,000 mi intervals, that would be pretty normal now, wouldn't it ?
Its 2017, maintenance records are "often" available and people do look at em.
Big trucks and even bigger motorized equipment are a whole different kettle of fish. Some plants "never" change oil. They rely on filtration, UOA's and they top up the "additives" as necessary. That ain't your typical passenger car or MC though.
So, my question is, if Mobil and Amsoil encourage their customers to behave stupidly, will they indemnify against that stupidity and purchase a car, no-one in their right mind would buy, knowing the oil was changed at 25,000 mi intervals because of hot-shot advertising claims ?
Its 2017, maintenance records are "often" available and people do look at em.
Big trucks and even bigger motorized equipment are a whole different kettle of fish. Some plants "never" change oil. They rely on filtration, UOA's and they top up the "additives" as necessary. That ain't your typical passenger car or MC though.
So, my question is, if Mobil and Amsoil encourage their customers to behave stupidly, will they indemnify against that stupidity and purchase a car, no-one in their right mind would buy, knowing the oil was changed at 25,000 mi intervals because of hot-shot advertising claims ?
Here it is again, slower. "Do you know for a FACT no one else will? Or are you just speculating? Most people buy used cars without knowing a thing about the cars previous records".
I never said trucks were the same as cars/bikes. I just mentioned that some vehicles do go 25K without an oil change.
Besides, NO oil company will BUY your used car no matter how well to keep it, BUT!!! they WILL repair or replace your engine IF their oil is found to be the reason the engine failed.
Behaving "stupidly", is that everyone's opinion or just your opinion???? I'm sure Mobil and Amsoil have done extensive tests in order to make that statement - don't you agree???
Do you personally know someone that went 25K miles and his engine failed??
I'm sorry you couldn't understand my simple questions.
#83
04-10-2017, 09:39 AM
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Regarding trucks - as I alluded to, I worked MRO for a large trucking firm.
12-15 liter diesel engines. EGR engines. We'd go 75,000 miles on an OC with nothing but filter changes and the occasional top off every 25,000 miles. Regularly go in excess of 1 million miles on that schedule. In the 5 years I was there, I can't remember a single failure ever traced back to oil condition.
Our engineers, in conjunction with the oil mfg engineers and with the engine OEM manufacture determined that we could go quite a bit farther than 75,000 miles if we wanted to. We decided against it as a precaution.
Previous to that I worked for an OEM - 25,000 mile oil changes were the norm and again - not a single failure due to oil condition I can think of. I've seen failures due to lack of oil - but that's driver error, not oil failure.
12-15 liter diesel engines. EGR engines. We'd go 75,000 miles on an OC with nothing but filter changes and the occasional top off every 25,000 miles. Regularly go in excess of 1 million miles on that schedule. In the 5 years I was there, I can't remember a single failure ever traced back to oil condition.
Our engineers, in conjunction with the oil mfg engineers and with the engine OEM manufacture determined that we could go quite a bit farther than 75,000 miles if we wanted to. We decided against it as a precaution.
Previous to that I worked for an OEM - 25,000 mile oil changes were the norm and again - not a single failure due to oil condition I can think of. I've seen failures due to lack of oil - but that's driver error, not oil failure.
#84
04-10-2017, 10:09 AM
I'd like to hear more on how and why some motors survive through 25+ k mi with out an oil change if one is able to explain further in detail please. ie; which products were used and the motors used? Thanks!
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04-10-2017, 03:39 PM
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I'll type even slower for you. When you trade your car in do you give them your maintenance records - even if you kept one? = NO! I've never given a dealer my service records - ever.
Here it is again, slower. "Do you know for a FACT no one else will? Or are you just speculating? Most people buy used cars without knowing a thing about the cars previous records".
I never said trucks were the same as cars/bikes. I just mentioned that some vehicles do go 25K without an oil change.
Besides, NO oil company will BUY your used car no matter how well to keep it, BUT!!! they WILL repair or replace your engine IF their oil is found to be the reason the engine failed.
Behaving "stupidly", is that everyone's opinion or just your opinion???? I'm sure Mobil and Amsoil have done extensive tests in order to make that statement - don't you agree???
Do you personally know someone that went 25K miles and his engine failed??
I'm sorry you couldn't understand my simple questions.
Here it is again, slower. "Do you know for a FACT no one else will? Or are you just speculating? Most people buy used cars without knowing a thing about the cars previous records".
I never said trucks were the same as cars/bikes. I just mentioned that some vehicles do go 25K without an oil change.
Besides, NO oil company will BUY your used car no matter how well to keep it, BUT!!! they WILL repair or replace your engine IF their oil is found to be the reason the engine failed.
Behaving "stupidly", is that everyone's opinion or just your opinion???? I'm sure Mobil and Amsoil have done extensive tests in order to make that statement - don't you agree???
Do you personally know someone that went 25K miles and his engine failed??
I'm sorry you couldn't understand my simple questions.
#86
04-10-2017, 04:33 PM
GOD!!! you really are a moron. Would you please read my posts before opening your %$#@ mouth.
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04-11-2017, 03:16 PM
#90
04-18-2017, 06:56 PM
Not familiar with the DD15's
expect it must be a really huge diesel capsble to sustain heavy work loads, but not subject to high speeds?
expect it must be a really huge diesel capsble to sustain heavy work loads, but not subject to high speeds?
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