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#222
07-12-2010, 06:19 PM
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I would use some thing heavier alot heavier. Most will point you to Redline Shockproof. Personally i can't get it locally and use mobile 1 Full Syn 75W-90 Gear Oil.
However, if you search you can find more reading on the topic than you will care to see.
However, if you search you can find more reading on the topic than you will care to see.
#223
07-13-2010, 08:30 AM
Trans AM GTA
Hi dude! I do remember the Trans AM GTA. Believe it or not I saw one the other day up here in the Boston area. Thanks for the advice.
I just changed my fluids yesterday. Went to Mobil 1 V-Twin, which I bought on sale at Advance Auto parts for $7.99 a quart. I understand you can get it at Walmart for $8.49 a quart every day. I used Mobil 1 75W-90 gear lube in the tranny. That was a little more spendy. I think it was $12.99 for the quart. Not sure. It kinda smells so don't spill it.
The capacities on these things is kinda weird. Mine took 2 1/2 quarts in the crankcase (do NOT overfill it), about 30 ounces in the primary and I dumped the whole quart in the tranny, so now it's over-filled just a tad. But I'm not gonna sweat that too much. I think it'll be okay. Just remember: MUCH, much easier to add than to take out.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is almost certainly a Group IV oil. Which means -- It kicks ****.
Technology is moving on. It will move on with you, or without you. It's your call.
Example: Are you old enough to remember the Trans Am GTA? With all the 'Boy Racer' horsey stuff and big motor and wings, and mag wheels. The 1988 Pontiac Trans Am GTA would do the 1/4 mile in 15.9 seconds.
A bone stock, 2009 Camry V6 grocery-getter, 4-Door, Grandma carryin', soccer-mom Toyota will do the quarter mile in 14.38 seconds.
Not fair, you say? Wanna go back to some old-fashioned muscle cars? How about the 1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS-350? 15.4 seconds standing 1/4 mile.
I don't wanna hear about the 'good ol days'. Bull snot. Technology kicks ****. Period. Get with it or get left behind. It's all the same to technolgy. It doesn't care. I'm not a 'young' guy either. Not by a long shot.
And, oh yeah. I could feel the difference in the bike. Smoother. The shifting clunk didn't go away yet, but I'm not sure I care. I kinda dig it.
The capacities on these things is kinda weird. Mine took 2 1/2 quarts in the crankcase (do NOT overfill it), about 30 ounces in the primary and I dumped the whole quart in the tranny, so now it's over-filled just a tad. But I'm not gonna sweat that too much. I think it'll be okay. Just remember: MUCH, much easier to add than to take out.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is almost certainly a Group IV oil. Which means -- It kicks ****.
Technology is moving on. It will move on with you, or without you. It's your call.
Example: Are you old enough to remember the Trans Am GTA? With all the 'Boy Racer' horsey stuff and big motor and wings, and mag wheels. The 1988 Pontiac Trans Am GTA would do the 1/4 mile in 15.9 seconds.
A bone stock, 2009 Camry V6 grocery-getter, 4-Door, Grandma carryin', soccer-mom Toyota will do the quarter mile in 14.38 seconds.
Not fair, you say? Wanna go back to some old-fashioned muscle cars? How about the 1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS-350? 15.4 seconds standing 1/4 mile.
I don't wanna hear about the 'good ol days'. Bull snot. Technology kicks ****. Period. Get with it or get left behind. It's all the same to technolgy. It doesn't care. I'm not a 'young' guy either. Not by a long shot.
And, oh yeah. I could feel the difference in the bike. Smoother. The shifting clunk didn't go away yet, but I'm not sure I care. I kinda dig it.
#224
07-13-2010, 05:14 PM
Grand HDF Member
The bikes are air cooled.I've owned an ironhead sporty,a shovel and a tc............they all had oil coolers. Lockhart on the old bikes,a Jagg on the tc.
#226
07-13-2010, 06:30 PM
just do a normal oil change and make the switch.
synth is just re-refined dino oils with a larger additive pack.
Not exactly true...Group III synthetics are petroleum base oils that are more refined to offer synthetic like properties.
Group IV and Group V synthetics are true synthetics. These base stocks are created in a lab and synthesied from oil, natural gas, coal, etc.
The molecules of synthesied oil are more uniform in size and can be "sized" by the lab for different applications.
The additive pack will be the same in a petroleum oil or a synthetic if it is an oil meeting the latest API rating/energy efficient rating. You just can't add any additional additive.
Amsoil and Brad Penn (the real Kendall) are my faves.
synth is just re-refined dino oils with a larger additive pack.
Not exactly true...Group III synthetics are petroleum base oils that are more refined to offer synthetic like properties.
Group IV and Group V synthetics are true synthetics. These base stocks are created in a lab and synthesied from oil, natural gas, coal, etc.
The molecules of synthesied oil are more uniform in size and can be "sized" by the lab for different applications.
The additive pack will be the same in a petroleum oil or a synthetic if it is an oil meeting the latest API rating/energy efficient rating. You just can't add any additional additive.
Amsoil and Brad Penn (the real Kendall) are my faves.
Synthetics excell in 3 areas, extreme cold, extreme heat,and long drain.
You probably won't be using your bike in temps of -35. If you pull a trailer full of anvils thru Death Valley in August, you might be a canidate, or if you have long drain intervals, 7,500+ miles.
#228
07-13-2010, 06:57 PM
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Yeah ditto what he said, Go to red line .com and look at what they have to say. I use redline oils in my bike and will never look back. They make specific oils for the different areas of your bike, ie crankcase, tranny, and primary. Good luck in your search.
#230
07-27-2010, 05:40 PM
Verifying Oil Change Info
I have browsed the forums and for the most part I am getting that for my 2009 Street Bob I need 2.5 Liters of Oil and .95L for my Primary and Transmission. Can someone verify this is correct. Also, I am thinking of switching from Syn-3 to Mobil 1 Synthetic..I can put that in all three boxes right?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance