Simple oil question....really!
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05-11-2007, 05:47 PM
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Simple oil question....really!
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
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05-11-2007, 06:07 PM
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RE: Simple oil question....really!
You'll find everyone has a different opinion.
My bike is in the shop as we speak, getting the 1,000 mile service done. I took my own oil:
Mobil V-twin synthetic for engine and primary
Mobil synthetic 75/90 for trans
It's my understanding that pretty much any old oil would be ok in the primary, but what the heck, I was already buying the Mobil.
My bike is in the shop as we speak, getting the 1,000 mile service done. I took my own oil:
Mobil V-twin synthetic for engine and primary
Mobil synthetic 75/90 for trans
It's my understanding that pretty much any old oil would be ok in the primary, but what the heck, I was already buying the Mobil.
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05-11-2007, 06:11 PM
RE: Simple oil question....really!
Simple advise.
If your a syn guy there are better syns than HD. What ever you use I would only use it in the tranny and engine, not in the primary. Me, after years with general aviation (air cooled just like HD) I stick with dino oil and change at 2500-3000 motor, 5000 tranny,2500 primary to get the clutch crap out. I believe changing the oil often is more important than the DINO or SYN debate
If your a syn guy there are better syns than HD. What ever you use I would only use it in the tranny and engine, not in the primary. Me, after years with general aviation (air cooled just like HD) I stick with dino oil and change at 2500-3000 motor, 5000 tranny,2500 primary to get the clutch crap out. I believe changing the oil often is more important than the DINO or SYN debate
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I believe changing the oil often is more important than the DINO or SYN debate
I believe changing the oil often is more important than the DINO or SYN debate
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05-11-2007, 06:36 PM
RE: Simple oil question....really!
But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary?
In the primary, it's overkill, any 10/30 or 10/40 oil without friction modifyers will be fine in there, nothing fancy at all.
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05-11-2007, 07:56 PM
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john, the cooling benefit is not just perceived, it is actual. Compared to the dino that comes supplied in the bike from the factory (CVO models excepted) synthetic oil does run cooler (less friction?).
The big benefit, however, is the syn's ability to withstand higher temperatures before it begins to oxydize (break down thermally). Once heated beyond it's breakdown threshold, oil does NOT recover its lubricating characteristics once it cools down. It is, literally, cooked!
EZ
The big benefit, however, is the syn's ability to withstand higher temperatures before it begins to oxydize (break down thermally). Once heated beyond it's breakdown threshold, oil does NOT recover its lubricating characteristics once it cools down. It is, literally, cooked!
EZ
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05-11-2007, 07:56 PM
RE: Simple oil question....really!
ORIGINAL: JohnC88
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
I have an 07 Road King and use the Amsoil SVG 75/90 synthetic gear oil in the trany and the Amsoil MCV 20/50 syntheticmotorcycle oilin the primary and engine, this combo works great on my 07.
Best of luck to you, the sythectic oils are the way to go...
Take Care,
Bill G
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ORIGINAL: EZ2Rider
john, the cooling benefit is not just perceived, it is actual. Compared to the dino that comes supplied in the bike from the factory (CVO models excepted) synthetic oil does run cooler (less friction?).
The big benefit, however, is the syn's ability to withstand higher temperatures before it begins to oxydize (break down thermally). Once heated beyond it's breakdown threshold, oil does NOT recover its lubricating characteristics once it cools down. It is, literally, cooked!
EZ
john, the cooling benefit is not just perceived, it is actual. Compared to the dino that comes supplied in the bike from the factory (CVO models excepted) synthetic oil does run cooler (less friction?).
The big benefit, however, is the syn's ability to withstand higher temperatures before it begins to oxydize (break down thermally). Once heated beyond it's breakdown threshold, oil does NOT recover its lubricating characteristics once it cools down. It is, literally, cooked!
EZ
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ORIGINAL: Bill G
If your set on sticking with Harley brandproducts, the 07 model manual says to use Formula+ in the primary and the trany, you can use the Syn3 in the motor with no problems but Harley is not recommending it in the 6 speed tranys in the manual.
I have an 07 Road King and use the Amsoil SVG 75/90 synthetic gear oil in the trany and the Amsoil MCV 20/50 syntheticmotorcycle oilin the primary and engine, this combo works great on my 07.
Best of luck to you, the sythectic oils are the way to go...
Take Care,
Bill G
ORIGINAL: JohnC88
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
I have an 07 Road King and use the Amsoil SVG 75/90 synthetic gear oil in the trany and the Amsoil MCV 20/50 syntheticmotorcycle oilin the primary and engine, this combo works great on my 07.
Best of luck to you, the sythectic oils are the way to go...
Take Care,
Bill G
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RE: Simple oil question....really!
ORIGINAL: JohnC88
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
I need to take my bike in for the 1,000 mile service soon. BeforeI spend my whole life learning the religion of oil I'd like some simple advice.
I want to use synthetic. I'm fine with the dealer using SYN3 for now. But do I want this in the motor, tranny, and primary? Or only two of three or ????? If not in all three, what goes where keeping in mind I will (for now) be using HD products and that all three are replaced at 1,000 mile service.
Thanks.
Without a doubt the best combo for your 2007 HD.
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