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Old 02-26-2019, 12:24 PM
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Just finished my Stage 1 with the SEPST, High Flow AC and Street Cannons. My new Road Glide runs great. The dealer loaded the tune as it was included in my price. That said, I’ve ordered the cable to do some Smart Tune sessions and watched the training videos a few times. After also researching the FP3 and PV the SEPST seems needlessly complicated. Maybe too much information. So I have a basic understanding of how to do the Smart Tune. My question is will I get prompts during the process instruction wise like with the FP3 and basic instructions? I mean it sounds like connect the bike to VCI, ride, download to PC then flash to bike. Just looking for a bit of hand holding I guess.
fwiw..I initially watched the tutorial and while it was WTMI, wasn't too intimidating...but I opted to have our dealership dyno tune instead as even the tutorial sates it is the preferred method yielding best results and we're fortunate enough to have very reputable dyno operators..results were great, sure it cost more than DIY, for me it came out the same $ wise as the Defiance rider floorboards so I treated it as if it was just another one of the many add ons but get more value out of it
 
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Originally Posted by Erilflynn

Just finished my Stage 1 with the SEPST, High Flow AC and Street Cannons. My new Road Glide runs great. The dealer loaded the tune as it was included in my price. That said, I’ve ordered the cable to do some Smart Tune sessions and watched the training videos a few times. After also researching the FP3 and PV the SEPST seems needlessly complicated. Maybe too much information. So I have a basic understanding of how to do the Smart Tune. My question is will I get prompts during the process instruction wise like with the FP3 and basic instructions? I mean it sounds like connect the bike to VCI, ride, download to PC then flash to bike. Just looking for a bit of hand holding I guess.
Yes. There is a tuning guide which pretty much walks you through the steps. Plenty of good video and help available too. It’s really no big deal, just a little clunky and primitive for present day compared to, say FP3.

Once you have the software and updated calibrations, you flash the unit and your bike. Now you could stop there with no problems if the calibration you loaded matches your bike eg. Stage 1 for your year, model, etc.

If you want more, you can then put the VCI into record mode and collect some real world data. The VCI has limited buffer so you will fill it up in about 15-20 mins of actual recording time. You can start and stop the recording by pressing a button on the VCI which remains cabled to your bike while you ride. Once it’s full, you then reconnect PC to pull the data off the VCI. You will have the option to let the software automatically merge your data with the existing base calibration. Then all you have to do is “upload” the newer tune or calibration to your bike’s ECM with the press of a button. Easy peasy.

Rinse and repeat a few times under various riding conditions and you’re good to go until your next major engine related alteration, if ever.

If you just wanna git er done, I’d just make sure your laptop has plenty of juice and just connect up out on the road to dump recorded data and then merge it all at once when you’ve got a few decent samples. If you’re comfortable enough, you can just flash the ECM on the side of the road, but to be honest, Windows Laptops are involved so might be better to have a beer in hand in your garage just in case

The only time when this is kind of delicate is during the actual flashing or upload to the ECM. You mustn’t loose power or connection during that critical minute or two. The system will make that moment clear when the time comes. Whole thing is finished in just a couple minutes.

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Originally Posted by Gead
FP3 only has map for 107 engines, it has no maps for 114,
That V&H tune with the standard baffles was a good tune for me.
 
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Yes. There is a tuning guide which pretty much walks you through the steps. Plenty of good video and help available too. It’s really no big deal, just a little clunky and primitive for present day compared to, say FP3.

Once you have the software and updated calibrations, you flash the unit and your bike. Now you could stop there with no problems if the calibration you loaded matches your bike eg. Stage 1 for your year, model, etc.

If you want more, you can then put the VCI into record mode and collect some real world data. The VCI has limited buffer so you will fill it up in about 15-20 mins of actual recording time. You can start and stop the recording by pressing a button on the VCI which remains cabled to your bike while you ride. Once it’s full, you then reconnect PC to pull the data off the VCI. You will have the option to let the software automatically merge your data with the existing base calibration. Then all you have to do is “upload” the newer tune or calibration to your bike’s ECM with the press of a button. Easy peasy.

Rinse and repeat a few times under various riding conditions and you’re good to go until your next major engine related alteration, if ever.

If you just wanna git er done, I’d just make sure your laptop has plenty of juice and just connect up out on the road to dump recorded data and then merge it all at once when you’ve got a few decent samples. If you’re comfortable enough, you can just flash the ECM on the side of the road, but to be honest, Windows Laptops are involved so might be better to have a beer in hand in your garage just in case

The only time when this is kind of delicate is during the actual flashing or upload to the ECM. You mustn’t loose power or connection during that critical minute or two. The system will make that moment clear when the time comes. Whole thing is finished in just a couple minutes.

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Thanks so much. I've fooled around with the software anonymously (sp) by putting "11111111" in for the vin. I imagine when I get the cable I should start by loading the configuration on the tuner to the laptop so it knows what I have and then follow the prompts when I'm ready to Smart Tune. Thanks again.
 
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Will the FP3 void my warranty ? I have 20 RGL with S&S slip ons stock air filter . I would like to tune it to run a bit richer/cooler .
 
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Re: going to larger air intake
I need to be schooled on how engine can take in more air when bike still has stock header with cat in it.
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Will the FP3 void my warranty ? I have 20 RGL with S&S slip ons stock air filter . I would like to tune it to run a bit richer/cooler .
Yep, sure will.
 
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I have 2020 RG.
My dealer said I can change slip ons, go with cat less header, larger air intake, tune with Harley tuner and it will NOT void my warranty.
 
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Originally Posted by madmustang4
I have 2020 RG.
My dealer said I can change slip ons, go with cat less header, larger air intake, tune with Harley tuner and it will NOT void my warranty.
your "dealer" is FOS..installing an emissions defeating device of any kind is a violation of your limited powertrain warranty..read that section in your Owners Manual..better yet, read it to the dealership person and ask them their interpretation which is clear as day to anyone with half a brain
 
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Originally Posted by madmustang4
I have 2020 RG.
My dealer said I can change slip ons, go with cat less header, larger air intake, tune with Harley tuner and it will NOT void my warranty.
If u put on SE slip ons, SE A/C and SE tuner your good to go. Add the cat less header its over.
 
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