People say Harley’s are priced too high
#251
03-09-2018, 09:18 AM
Road Warrior
#252
03-09-2018, 09:39 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
#253
03-09-2018, 10:46 AM
A slight over simplification but here goes .
Those of us that own a new motorcycle , understand they're at a fairly high price point,and somewhat with that goes a brand loyalty inclusion but nonetheless we all bought one knowing what the cost impost, it's simply the price of admission to this new Harley groove most of us are on.
Those who can't afford one and don't have a new bike are going to say they're at too high a price point for what you're getting and for what you're getting per dollar they'll waffle that they're junk and unreliable and that's why they don't own one rather than admit they are underfunded.
Somewhere in the middle is the truth.
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Those of us that own a new motorcycle , understand they're at a fairly high price point,and somewhat with that goes a brand loyalty inclusion but nonetheless we all bought one knowing what the cost impost, it's simply the price of admission to this new Harley groove most of us are on.
Those who can't afford one and don't have a new bike are going to say they're at too high a price point for what you're getting and for what you're getting per dollar they'll waffle that they're junk and unreliable and that's why they don't own one rather than admit they are underfunded.
Somewhere in the middle is the truth.
Oxycontin rooolz !
when I decided to buy myself a new "final" bike, given my age ( upper 60's ) and riding history, 28 years on Harleys, I didn't worry one bit about the dollars. I simply wanted to buy the bike that fit my wants the best. I know Harleys pretty well after owning 12 of them, there pros and cons. I wanted and actually needed a lighter bike than my previous 14 Limited due to a gut health issue, decided to live without a tour pak for a lower center of gravity and reduced weight.
when I started looking I narrowed my options to a new Road Glide Special, a new Heritage with the 114 and the new BMW K1600B or Bagger. It was a tough decision. Fortunately I really liked the looks of the new BMW K1600B, designed by Rolland Sands in his California studio so I decided to test ride one.
While the bikes overall experience blew my mind, the details, features also grabbed my attention. Features I had always wished for were here and I wasn't paying $40,000 to get them. Keyless locking system including the steering neck. Real time tire pressure readout, heated seat and grips. Clutchless shifting option, When I do use the clutch it's so smooth and easy. Power windshied. The best linked ABS brakes I have ever experienced, you only use the hand brake. The rear brake pedal is only used when you actually want to use back brake only, like on gravel. Power adjustable suspension allows you to select between one up, two up and luggage. The suspension also adjust to your riding preference, smooth freeway rides or firm for cornering, spirited riding. The suspension even adjust as you corner. The headlight even adjust as you corner to help you see around the curve. Has a hill hold feature, holds the bike in place without holding the brakes. The stereo system is separate from the Navigation. It is easy to remove from the bike, you can map your trips with your computer. Has real blue tooth wireless, on and on.
all for the same price roughly as a Road Glide special. What you get for your money was no comparison. The performance comparison is not even close. Same for ride, handling and braking.
in my humble opinion, this illustration of what you get for your money is one of Harleys challenges, it's not the 25K, it's what you get for that money.
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jd05flhtci (03-09-2018)
#254
03-09-2018, 10:59 AM
sounds like self justification to me, nothing could be further from the truth.
when I decided to buy myself a new "final" bike, given my age ( upper 60's ) and riding history, 28 years on Harleys, I didn't worry one bit about the dollars. I simply wanted to buy the bike that fit my wants the best. I know Harleys pretty well after owning 12 of them, there pros and cons. I wanted and actually needed a lighter bike than my previous 14 Limited due to a gut health issue, decided to live without a tour pak for a lower center of gravity and reduced weight.
when I started looking I narrowed my options to a new Road Glide Special, a new Heritage with the 114 and the new BMW K1600B or Bagger. It was a tough decision. Fortunately I really liked the looks of the new BMW K1600B, designed by Rolland Sands in his California studio so I decided to test ride one.
While the bikes overall experience blew my mind, the details, features also grabbed my attention. Features I had always wished for were here and I wasn't paying $40,000 to get them. Keyless locking system including the steering neck. Real time tire pressure readout, heated seat and grips. Clutchless shifting option, When I do use the clutch it's so smooth and easy. Power windshied. The best linked ABS brakes I have ever experienced, you only use the hand brake. The rear brake pedal is only used when you actually want to use back brake only, like on gravel. Power adjustable suspension allows you to select between one up, two up and luggage. The suspension also adjust to your riding preference, smooth freeway rides or firm for cornering, spirited riding. The suspension even adjust as you corner. The headlight even adjust as you corner to help you see around the curve. Has a hill hold feature, holds the bike in place without holding the brakes. The stereo system is separate from the Navigation. It is easy to remove from the bike, you can map your trips with your computer. Has real blue tooth wireless, on and on.
all for the same price roughly as a Road Glide special. What you get for your money was no comparison. The performance comparison is not even close. Same for ride, handling and braking.
in my humble opinion, this illustration of what you get for your money is one of Harleys challenges, it's not the 25K, it's what you get for that money.
when I decided to buy myself a new "final" bike, given my age ( upper 60's ) and riding history, 28 years on Harleys, I didn't worry one bit about the dollars. I simply wanted to buy the bike that fit my wants the best. I know Harleys pretty well after owning 12 of them, there pros and cons. I wanted and actually needed a lighter bike than my previous 14 Limited due to a gut health issue, decided to live without a tour pak for a lower center of gravity and reduced weight.
when I started looking I narrowed my options to a new Road Glide Special, a new Heritage with the 114 and the new BMW K1600B or Bagger. It was a tough decision. Fortunately I really liked the looks of the new BMW K1600B, designed by Rolland Sands in his California studio so I decided to test ride one.
While the bikes overall experience blew my mind, the details, features also grabbed my attention. Features I had always wished for were here and I wasn't paying $40,000 to get them. Keyless locking system including the steering neck. Real time tire pressure readout, heated seat and grips. Clutchless shifting option, When I do use the clutch it's so smooth and easy. Power windshied. The best linked ABS brakes I have ever experienced, you only use the hand brake. The rear brake pedal is only used when you actually want to use back brake only, like on gravel. Power adjustable suspension allows you to select between one up, two up and luggage. The suspension also adjust to your riding preference, smooth freeway rides or firm for cornering, spirited riding. The suspension even adjust as you corner. The headlight even adjust as you corner to help you see around the curve. Has a hill hold feature, holds the bike in place without holding the brakes. The stereo system is separate from the Navigation. It is easy to remove from the bike, you can map your trips with your computer. Has real blue tooth wireless, on and on.
all for the same price roughly as a Road Glide special. What you get for your money was no comparison. The performance comparison is not even close. Same for ride, handling and braking.
in my humble opinion, this illustration of what you get for your money is one of Harleys challenges, it's not the 25K, it's what you get for that money.
I saw one accelerating a few weeks ago, it sounded like a F1 race car ... pretty cool !!
#255
03-09-2018, 11:02 AM
Tourer
this is a very strange thread.. we all buy what we want for our own reasons within the confines of what we are willing to pay. I own a Harley, because it's a Harley.. Love the people power with other Harley Riders. When I raced, there was never slams over another riders ride, they chose upon their expectations .....
Last edited by Geary Thomas; 03-09-2018 at 11:03 AM.
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#256
03-09-2018, 12:21 PM
the 6cyl K motor was actually designed at BMW'S old F1 racing headquarters. When they got out of F1 racing they turned the entire opperation to the BMW motorcycle division. Can only imagine the equipment, computes and software that was at there disposal for that motor build.
#257
03-09-2018, 12:30 PM
this is a very strange thread.. we all buy what we want for our own reasons within the confines of what we are willing to pay. I own a Harley, because it's a Harley.. Love the people power with other Harley Riders. When I raced, there was never slams over another riders ride, they chose upon their expectations .....
I still like them and accept them for what they are. Just comes down to what you want out of a bike.
without question, Harley has the largest social group called HOG. The most dealerships and accessories available. Lotta BMW owners also own a Harley and vise versa.
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#258
03-09-2018, 12:59 PM
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#259
03-09-2018, 02:00 PM
Road Warrior
yes I did, the bike is a blast to ride. The bike is pretty quiet at low speeds but as you said sounds and feels like a F1 race car as you wick it up.
the 6cyl K motor was actually designed at BMW'S old F1 racing headquarters. When they got out of F1 racing they turned the entire opperation to the BMW motorcycle division. Can only imagine the equipment, computes and software that was at there disposal for that motor build.
the 6cyl K motor was actually designed at BMW'S old F1 racing headquarters. When they got out of F1 racing they turned the entire opperation to the BMW motorcycle division. Can only imagine the equipment, computes and software that was at there disposal for that motor build.
#260
03-09-2018, 02:02 PM
sounds like self justification to me, nothing could be further from the truth.
when I decided to buy myself a new "final" bike, given my age ( upper 60's ) and riding history, 28 years on Harleys, I didn't worry one bit about the dollars. I simply wanted to buy the bike that fit my wants the best. I know Harleys pretty well after owning 12 of them, there pros and cons. I wanted and actually needed a lighter bike than my previous 14 Limited due to a gut health issue, decided to live without a tour pak for a lower center of gravity and reduced weight.
when I started looking I narrowed my options to a new Road Glide Special, a new Heritage with the 114 and the new BMW K1600B or Bagger. It was a tough decision. Fortunately I really liked the looks of the new BMW K1600B, designed by Rolland Sands in his California studio so I decided to test ride one.
While the bikes overall experience blew my mind, the details, features also grabbed my attention. Features I had always wished for were here and I wasn't paying $40,000 to get them. Keyless locking system including the steering neck. Real time tire pressure readout, heated seat and grips. Clutchless shifting option, When I do use the clutch it's so smooth and easy. Power windshied. The best linked ABS brakes I have ever experienced, you only use the hand brake. The rear brake pedal is only used when you actually want to use back brake only, like on gravel. Power adjustable suspension allows you to select between one up, two up and luggage. The suspension also adjust to your riding preference, smooth freeway rides or firm for cornering, spirited riding. The suspension even adjust as you corner. The headlight even adjust as you corner to help you see around the curve. Has a hill hold feature, holds the bike in place without holding the brakes. The stereo system is separate from the Navigation. It is easy to remove from the bike, you can map your trips with your computer. Has real blue tooth wireless, on and on.
all for the same price roughly as a Road Glide special. What you get for your money was no comparison. The performance comparison is not even close. Same for ride, handling and braking.
in my humble opinion, this illustration of what you get for your money is one of Harleys challenges, it's not the 25K, it's what you get for that money.
when I decided to buy myself a new "final" bike, given my age ( upper 60's ) and riding history, 28 years on Harleys, I didn't worry one bit about the dollars. I simply wanted to buy the bike that fit my wants the best. I know Harleys pretty well after owning 12 of them, there pros and cons. I wanted and actually needed a lighter bike than my previous 14 Limited due to a gut health issue, decided to live without a tour pak for a lower center of gravity and reduced weight.
when I started looking I narrowed my options to a new Road Glide Special, a new Heritage with the 114 and the new BMW K1600B or Bagger. It was a tough decision. Fortunately I really liked the looks of the new BMW K1600B, designed by Rolland Sands in his California studio so I decided to test ride one.
While the bikes overall experience blew my mind, the details, features also grabbed my attention. Features I had always wished for were here and I wasn't paying $40,000 to get them. Keyless locking system including the steering neck. Real time tire pressure readout, heated seat and grips. Clutchless shifting option, When I do use the clutch it's so smooth and easy. Power windshied. The best linked ABS brakes I have ever experienced, you only use the hand brake. The rear brake pedal is only used when you actually want to use back brake only, like on gravel. Power adjustable suspension allows you to select between one up, two up and luggage. The suspension also adjust to your riding preference, smooth freeway rides or firm for cornering, spirited riding. The suspension even adjust as you corner. The headlight even adjust as you corner to help you see around the curve. Has a hill hold feature, holds the bike in place without holding the brakes. The stereo system is separate from the Navigation. It is easy to remove from the bike, you can map your trips with your computer. Has real blue tooth wireless, on and on.
all for the same price roughly as a Road Glide special. What you get for your money was no comparison. The performance comparison is not even close. Same for ride, handling and braking.
in my humble opinion, this illustration of what you get for your money is one of Harleys challenges, it's not the 25K, it's what you get for that money.
I buddy got me to sit on this bike. He said if he ever got off of Harley this is the one. I have to admit... If all my friends didn't ride Harleys and we were not always going to do Harley things and running to Harley hangouts Id probably own one.. I love my Harleys and there's just something about riding one but what you get for your money Harley sucks. This BMW is pretty nice. I don't think I could wear the whole yuppie get up that you see all of them wear but who knows.... I said I'd never ride a Harley and wear a skull cap too..lol
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