I totally get that. My earlier point was Fuelmoto (who are very respectable) said that while HD Corporate can detect if the ECM was flashed, the dealer systems can not. If that's true then only the most serious claim or something that introduces suspicion may call for that kind of forensics.

And of course my plan would have been to buy a SE tuner to at least have their stage 1 EPA tune on it which would get reloaded when in for service. But if you are correct and FuelMoto is plain wrong with what they told me, then it's all moot.

I'm going to look a bit further into this. If I find anything verifiable I'll post back.

And I'll look for related threads here. Though I've read plenty of stories of dealers who have no idea what they are doing with regards to warranty claims, basically deny wherever they think they can get away with it by default, so its not surprising. Here in my area I bet half the people buying bikes are RUB lawyers, so maybe that stuff doesn't happen here as much as a result. Who knows.

Thanks

 

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Highly recommend staying stock or adding just street cannons and the se street tuner with stage the 1 download. Then, after your warranty is up modify away using non epa goodies from your favorite vendor. Just my 2 cents.

 

Definitely seems to be the consensus. Thanks.

 

My 2017 RGS already had cams installed when I bought it. It was an experiment by the dealer to see what kind of numbers would come from stage 2 with the torque cam, intake, pro street tuner, and slip on mufflers. It carries the full 2 year warranty. When the warranty is expired, I may do other changes to it, but I will live with it until then.
If purchasing a new Screaming Eagle RG, they already come with the 114 cu. in. motor which has good torque numbers. Buy it, ride it, and at the end of the warranty, do what you like to it.
If you have the parts added before purchase, or at purchase, they are covered under the warranty.

 

You look three sheets to the wind in your avatar. I bet that was a killer day.

 

HA! You should see the photos from an hour later...

 

Funny...I bought a new Camaro and took the cats off...and cammed it, headers, intake, exhaust, and tune. All before 2K miles. And never in a million years would I ask GM to cover something that broke because of my mods. I would damn well expect them to cover something that clearly failed due to defect, but accept responsibility otherwise.

The biggest issue I take with the EPA decree is that it seems to throw Magnuson-Moss right out the window by requiring H-D dealers to be policemen for them. Make no mistake; H-D got what they deserved for tuning a blind eye to their dealers that were knowingly adding in-house mods that put bikes out of EPA compliance. I've never seen anything like this.

But, you're right. You mod it, you own it, shut up and quit yer bitchin'.

 

This is actually an interesting point. Night Rider is now selling an FL-AF-XiED-17 unit for our 17/18s. Its just plug and unplug, doesnt modify the ECM

http://sales.nightrider.com/FL-AF-XiED-17_p_84.html

 

I went with the Xied for my 103. Simple and effective.

Whatever's in your coconut look like whiskey.