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Notice the absence of the Wide Glide
 
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So, the revolution has begun.... M8's for everyone. I bet the lighter bikes will run like a bat out of hell with M8's in them........ Will our section still be called Milwaukee 8?
 
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So, the revolution has begun.... M8's for everyone. I bet the lighter bikes will run like a bat out of hell with M8's in them........

I thought the Ultra I demoed was pretty fast. Loved the power delivery. The M8 should make a Softail really cook!
 
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I am kind of excited about three Heritage models / trims.
 
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114 needs to go into the StreetBob, not the Fatbob.
 
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Leaked information about the 2018 Harley-Davidson range shows that the Milwaukee-Eight engine is to spread across the entire Dyna and Softail lines next year.
Launched in the firm’s 2017 trike and Touring models, the Milwaukee-Eight is one of the biggest steps in Harley-Davidson engine history. An all-new engine, it combines traditional elements like the 45-degree V-angle and pushrod valve actuation with modern technology. It has four valves per cylinder and some ‘Twin-Cooled’ versions have water-cooled cylinder heads.
For the 2018 Harley-Davidson range there will be three sizes of Milwaukee-Eight. The basic version is a 92hp, 1746cc unit and its name, ‘107’, reflects its capacity in cubic inches. There’s also an 1868cc, 101hp ‘114’ version and a 105hp, 1923cc ‘117’ derivative.
The bikes in the Dyna and Softail range currently use Harley’s Twin Cam V-twin in 1688cc ‘103’ or 1802cc ‘110’ form. They will all switch to the new engines. Most will get the 107 version of the Milwaukee-Eight.
Bikes getting the Milwaukee-Eight will include the Breakout, Softail Deluxe, Fat Boy, Heritage Softail Classic, Low Rider, Softail Slim, Fat Boy, Street Bob and Fat Bob.
As well as spreading its new engine across the Softail and Dyna ranges, Harley will add to its ‘S-Series’ line up next year. These will be higher-spec versions of various bikes. At the moment, Harley sells three ‘S-Series’ machines – the Low Rider S, Softail Slim S and Fat Boy S. Next year there will also be the Breakout S and Heritage Classic S. These are expected to have the larger, 1868cc ‘114’ version of the Milwaukee-Eight. An additional new model, the Fat Bob 114, will also use the larger engine. It will be sold alongside the normal, 107cu in Fat Bob.
Having started business in 1903, 2018 also represents Harley’s 115th anniversary. As a result the firm will launch a range of Anniversary-branded models to celebrate. The range will include the Breakout S Anniversary, Fat Boy S Anniversary, Tri Glide Ultra Anniversary, Heritage Classic S Anniversary, CVO Ultra Limited Anniversary and Ultra Limited Anniversary. There will also be two special versions of the Fat Boy S; the Anniversary V and Anniversary X. While we know the names of these bikes, we don’t have information on their specifications.
The CVO models will be the only versions with the largest, 117 cu in version of the Milwaukee-Eight.
Harley will probably officially reveal its 2018 range towards the end of August.
 
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I am kind of excited about three Heritage models / trims.
Prot, are you a buyer for 18? Also, does it sound like touring gets a larger M8?
 
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Originally Posted by TomcatCV62
Prot, are you a buyer for 18? Also, does it sound like touring gets a larger M8?
My interpretation of the EPA and CARB sheets suggests (strongly, so far) that most touring bikes will keep the 107, but the FLHTK and the FLTRU will get the 114, and the FLHTKSE will get the 117.


As for the Softys (including the converted Dyna models), some will get 107 and some will get 114.


This is my interpretation of the sheets that are posted so far.


Kinda looking forward to Monday, but worried, cuz I should wait at least another year to update...
 
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Originally Posted by TomcatCV62
Prot, are you a buyer for 18? Also, does it sound like touring gets a larger M8?
Nope. My current bike is my last bike. I just like learning about stuff and have a tendency to amass lots of useless information.

In 2017 a regular touring bike is 107 and a cvo touring bike is 114.


Previously in the twin cam era, with the introduction of the S models, it seemed a cvo was hard to justify since the S models offered the same engine and a nice overall package for a lot less than a cvo and only a little more than a standard model.

Based on the articles that have leaked information, it appears they are trying to fix that by having regular models 107, s models 114, and cvo models 117. Then again, the accuracy of the information is questionable at this point and I would place more accuracy on lists of models and model names than I would on technical specifications.

My local dealer is having a big reveal party on August 26, so the speculation and rumors should end by then.

FWIW, I know more about Star Trek than any sane person should. I am kind of that way with Harley's but not to that extreme.

I think the Heritage S is going to be a lot like the Road King Special. And that is something that excites me, but I won't be buying.

One thing is for sure. They need to get this oil pump bullshit under control. I mean, that is just basic.
 

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