I don't think they could. Maybe if something happened to your clutch or transmission they might try, but in most instances they aren't going to go looking in places that don't impact what they are warrantying. Also they would have to prove that the seal caused the problem you want warranted. Kind of hard to blame sumping on a seal in the transmission, especially since you fixed a problem they have admitted they don't have a solution for.

What you have to consider here is that unless somebody knows about it they aren't likely to find it. Had it not been for this thread I would have never checked my transmission and found it to be low. In the 35 years I have been riding Harleys, unless there was a puddle on the floor (and there never was from the transmission) then I didn't check it and when I occasionally would check it at service intervals, it was never low. If it had gotten low enough that it started making noise then I'm sure I would have discovered it, but it may have never gotten that low.

When a bike goes into the dealer for service they pull the plugs and drain all three holes at once. If it's not time to change the primary or transmission fluids they might not even check them. What I'm getting at is the problem could be for more common than what they are trying to lead you to believe. I mean, Steve Cole bought two '17 models and both of them transferred. Also every 2017 touring Harley he put on his dyno could be made to transfer by running it at high rpms for a few minutes. Just coincidence?

I'm not saying that they all do it or that even a high percentage of them do. What I am saying is that I think it is more prevalent than what these dealers are trying to make you believe.

There's a good chance that if you trade bikes you will get one that has no problems, but you do know about the problem and I'm sure you will be looking for it, so if the new bike has it you're going to find it. And that's a good thing. I would rather know about than not know, at least then you can monitor it.

 

You only need to have it documented once, just wait to take it in when they have the cure. Only if there were a recall could you get it fixed past warranty. Mine transfers less than 5 oz between service intervals so Im not real concerned. And 5oz is considered normal so they wont fix it anyway. My 2017 only did a couple oz in over 15,500 miles

 

What does 5oz look like on the dip stick?

 

Five ounces won’t be on the dipstick or at best just barely touched the tip. The difference between the high mark and the low mark is about 3-4 oz.

 

In that case mine has only migrated about 2-3oz. and that only since running her up past 4500-5000 for a few minutes a couple weeks ago. It doesn't seem to be migrating any more since with 400 miles or so at my normal riding habits.

 

Why should it migrate at all? The MOCO is succeeding in their effort to make transfer acceptable. They want to make you the transgressor by saying if you operate your machine at the upper limits of the parameters that they set you should accept it if it transfers. I find that to be unacceptable!

 

I agree stone--I'm going to get it documented soon. I've already spoken to the dealer about it and they have admitted to the issue and the need for documentation.
Interesting bit: the first time I asked about it, there was total denial. The second time, they knew all about it and spoke openly.

 

I doubt it was denial.. More like they hadn't started to see it yet..

 

Could be, but I know shifty eyes and body language when I see them.

:-)

 

Every dealer I've asked about it has said they haven't even heard about it, two of which I directed to TA0022. The dealer in Reno documented my transfer without even looking at the bike. I've determined that any fix the MOCO comes up with probably won't be as efficient as my seal, so that is the way I'm going. My warranty is over when I do the cam anyway.

I've seen that a lot in Oklahoma!