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Old 10-05-2017, 07:10 AM
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This is one of the many things that my dealer is doing to my bike while it's in there for the big "Checklist" procedure since the new tranny didn't fix the problem. It just seems like a long shot for the crankcase to be pulling enough vacuum in the primary case through a bad crankshaft seal to suck that much oil out of the tranny to cause the amount of transfer that we're experiencing. I mean, I guess it could, but, why not do what someone else here, (sorry, don't remember who), already suggested and drill/tap a 5/16" NPT hole in the top of a sacrificial primary cover, put a brass filter/breather in it, and let that puppy breath? The path of vacuum is broken at that point without having to dive too deep into the bike. I'm hoping that the dealer gets my bike delivered back to me sometime this week so I can start on a different chapter of this saga.........

I still need to check into California's Lemon Law too.
I have brought this up a few times but I still don't have access to the spare parts, funds, or a dyno to do this, like maybe some others here may. (Not to mention the I haven't laid eyes on my bike in over 2 months because it's still in the shop for this issue.) I even mentioned it to my service dept but still don't know if anyone has tried it yet. It looks to be a simple test to help verify whether or not the oil is getting sucked into the primary or mechanically pushed into it.......
 

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Old 10-05-2017, 07:44 AM
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I don't have a M-8 so I'm just guessing but if you removed the top derby cover screw wouldn't that create a vent for the primary. AFAIK the screw holes pass thru the primary cover.
You could use a screw similar to the vent screw that was used to vent the old 4 speed FX transmissions.
34720-56 VENT SCREW, transmission housing 71 to 79 - All Models
 
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Old 10-05-2017, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FM500
My Questions up to now.

What will happen, if the transmission vent hose from the top of the transmission cover is directly connected to the top of the inner primary housing? The pressure/vacuum should be identical in both cases. Right?
If yes, the sucking of oil over the mainshaft may stop?
I don't think that's a solution... the trans still needs to vent to atmosphere to keep the transmission from operating in a vacuum.
 
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:24 AM
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I don't think that's a solution... the trans still needs to vent to atmosphere to keep the transmission from operating in a vacuum.
Sorry, but I did not know that the HD transmission does not work in a light vacuum and it's absolutely necessary to vent it to the atmosphere.
 
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:37 AM
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Sorry, but I did not know that the HD transmission does not work in a light vacuum and it's absolutely necessary to vent it to the atmosphere.
What happens if pressure builds in the primary / tranny instead of a vacuum?
 
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What happens if pressure builds in the primary / tranny instead of a vacuum?
I don't know exactly.
Where the primary is vented now?
 
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:52 AM
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Sorry, but I did not know that the HD transmission does not work in a light vacuum and it's absolutely necessary to vent it to the atmosphere.
A light vacuum is one thing... a vacuum that is causing migration may not be "light". But thanks for the useful commentary!
 
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Old 10-05-2017, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FM500
I don't know exactly.
Where the primary is vented now?
Through the tranny mainshaft to the tranny.
 
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UPDATE: 375 Miles after dealer service (spacer, gasket, seal, etc). Was told to put on 500 miles and return for check. Well at 375 I show no oil on the stick, yep there is oil in the trans case, just none on the stick. Will call the dealer and give an update when available. Oh and I have just under 4k miles total.

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We all knew the fix was not a fix.............
 
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Originally Posted by QNman
A light vacuum is one thing... a vacuum that is causing migration may not be "light". But thanks for the useful commentary!
My English is not good, so misunderstandings can come.
If I wrote something wrong I beg your pardon, honestly.
 


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