who's been having to add transmission fluid?
#1721
09-25-2017, 11:59 AM
Road Warrior
Thanks for the reply. If no slinger I would assume something else changed to oil that area. Hope you or MOCO enventually figures out a solution.
#1723
09-25-2017, 12:33 PM
Road Warrior
Interesting question though. Maybe after some miles the clearance/fit between the pushrod and mainshaft get larger? Although I can't see how a larger mainshaft bore would help the situation. Back to head scratching.
#1724
09-25-2017, 01:11 PM
Club Member
Installing an o-ring on the pushrod has been done for years. While it would stop the transfer it also takes the venting away from the Primary area which isn't a good thing. The guys that came up with the o-ring trick did it to stop oil seapage from having an open belt drive primary. Never a real leak like we have today just the fumes would come out and get a light oil film on the belt drive over time. Later on they came out with a sealed nut you installed that did the same thing. The things I have done and worked on were an attempt to keep the oil from getting into the passageway to start with. Yes, we have had success but not a complete fix. The real problem is what is causing the oil level to rise to the point of the passageway in the first place. I am still looking to get new bearings with a seal in them to stop the oil path into this area, as that is where I feel it is coming from in the first place.
#1725
09-25-2017, 03:45 PM
Road Master
I can verify that mine's definitely slowed down substantially. Whether it's coincidental I'm not certain, but at 5K I serviced it with Spectro 75/140.
Temps have pushed the 90's lately, so twice now I've ran the 2nd gear/50mph test for six solid minutes and have seen VERY little transfer. It's good enough for me, and I dang sure ain't running that test again.
Felt guilty putting the bike through it.
Temps have pushed the 90's lately, so twice now I've ran the 2nd gear/50mph test for six solid minutes and have seen VERY little transfer. It's good enough for me, and I dang sure ain't running that test again.
Felt guilty putting the bike through it.
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smitty901 (10-05-2017)
#1726
09-25-2017, 09:32 PM
I finally got a chance to get a few miles on mine since the spacer and seal. 145 miles and I already have evidence of transfer.....gee big surprise there! Steve please let us know ASAP what the special top secret part is.......maybe its a 2018 that transfers oil.............OOPS, I mean one that does not transfer........
I sure hope the MOCO keeps thrownin mud at the wall and gets some to stick.........
Eagle Out
I sure hope the MOCO keeps thrownin mud at the wall and gets some to stick.........
Eagle Out
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ocezam (09-26-2017)
#1727
09-26-2017, 08:48 AM
Well Eagle, that's pretty disheartening....... My Spacer/Seal arrived at the shop 3 weeks ago and while they were using the cool Seal Puller tool that Milwaukee sent them to pull my seal out, the Crankcase got boogered up because it was the wrong tool. So then MoCo had to send out the correct puller as well as a new Case before they could go any further. As of today, I'm still down and it's been just under 2 months in the shop. I already informed the Service Mgr that if this "Fix" doesn't work, he, myself, and the dealership Mgr need to sit down to figure out the next move. New motor/tranny, new 2017 bike, new 2016 bike with lots of goodies, or maybe a full blown buy back. My 2017 King is built to 114" stage 4 so that comes into play too. Hell, I don't know....... Just want my damn bike back.
Our luck would be getting a new assembly and the transfer is gone but now they sump......
Eagle Out
#1728
09-26-2017, 08:59 AM
On another note, considering filing a Lemon Law as in Ohio motorcycles are covered. Yes they need ample time and 3 attempts to fix a problem in order to qualify and we are still working on that but......
From Ohio Attorney General Lemon Law webpage........
Has one unsuccessful attempt been made to fix a problem that could cause death or serious injury?
Thinking of filing such a complaint as no one knows for sure if a trans with low oil could do this.......I would think low lube could cause a bearing failure or lock up quite easily....not good goin down the superslab bout 70mph......
Just thinkin out loud, and yes going to file a complaint with the NHTSA or whatever it is....
Eagle Out
From Ohio Attorney General Lemon Law webpage........
Has one unsuccessful attempt been made to fix a problem that could cause death or serious injury?
Thinking of filing such a complaint as no one knows for sure if a trans with low oil could do this.......I would think low lube could cause a bearing failure or lock up quite easily....not good goin down the superslab bout 70mph......
Just thinkin out loud, and yes going to file a complaint with the NHTSA or whatever it is....
Eagle Out
Last edited by 103Eagle; 09-26-2017 at 09:20 AM.
#1729
09-26-2017, 11:10 AM
Club Member
On another note, considering filing a Lemon Law as in Ohio motorcycles are covered. Yes they need ample time and 3 attempts to fix a problem in order to qualify and we are still working on that but......
From Ohio Attorney General Lemon Law webpage........
Has one unsuccessful attempt been made to fix a problem that could cause death or serious injury?
Thinking of filing such a complaint as no one knows for sure if a trans with low oil could do this.......I would think low lube could cause a bearing failure or lock up quite easily....not good goin down the superslab bout 70mph......
Just thinkin out loud, and yes going to file a complaint with the NHTSA or whatever it is....
Eagle Out
From Ohio Attorney General Lemon Law webpage........
Has one unsuccessful attempt been made to fix a problem that could cause death or serious injury?
Thinking of filing such a complaint as no one knows for sure if a trans with low oil could do this.......I would think low lube could cause a bearing failure or lock up quite easily....not good goin down the superslab bout 70mph......
Just thinkin out loud, and yes going to file a complaint with the NHTSA or whatever it is....
Eagle Out
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ocezam (09-26-2017)
#1730
09-26-2017, 11:31 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
Well Eagle, that's pretty disheartening....... My Spacer/Seal arrived at the shop 3 weeks ago and while they were using the cool Seal Puller tool that Milwaukee sent them to pull my seal out, the Crankcase got boogered up because it was the wrong tool. So then MoCo had to send out the correct puller as well as a new Case before they could go any further. As of today, I'm still down and it's been just under 2 months in the shop. I already informed the Service Mgr that if this "Fix" doesn't work, he, myself, and the dealership Mgr need to sit down to figure out the next move. New motor/tranny, new 2017 bike, new 2016 bike with lots of goodies, or maybe a full blown buy back. My 2017 King is built to 114" stage 4 so that comes into play too. Hell, I don't know....... Just want my damn bike back.