who's been having to add transmission fluid?
#1541
09-08-2017, 12:07 PM
There is a clear correlation between the trans migration and pressure cause it accentuates at high revs. The matter concerns the points of comunication between cameras and the pressure, and the relationship between these two variables, thought.
Last edited by free...; 09-08-2017 at 12:27 PM.
#1542
09-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Tourer
#1543
09-08-2017, 02:45 PM
#1544
09-08-2017, 03:46 PM
Tourer
I'm not trolling any body jack just hate for someone to act like i'm telling a lie over and out and i mean this i hope they fix all the bikes but it's not going to happen.
Last edited by Steve Helton; 09-08-2017 at 07:09 PM.
#1545
09-08-2017, 03:48 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
I'm having a horrible time with that tear shaped fluid pan thing right above the engine. I mean I cannot sleep over it.
I paid soooo much money for this thing and I make it a habit that my dollars are priceless and worth more than most peoples dollars.
I simply deserve better than most people.
My trans is transferring only about 16 ounces every 6 thousand miles but it's really no problem.
I mean 6000 miles is a lot and nothing to loose sleep over; however, its the big thingy on top of the engine... the bike will not go until I put 6 GALLONS of fluid stuff into it EVERY 300 miles!!!! WTF Harley!
I just want to cry all the time... someone called me a snowflake but I don't know what that means. Put ice in the thing? I dunno... screw it. I'm buying a Honda. I know they are better.
I only had to have the frame welded twice on my last one after 5000 miles. Way better than every 300. Screw you Harley.
I paid soooo much money for this thing and I make it a habit that my dollars are priceless and worth more than most peoples dollars.
I simply deserve better than most people.
My trans is transferring only about 16 ounces every 6 thousand miles but it's really no problem.
I mean 6000 miles is a lot and nothing to loose sleep over; however, its the big thingy on top of the engine... the bike will not go until I put 6 GALLONS of fluid stuff into it EVERY 300 miles!!!! WTF Harley!
I just want to cry all the time... someone called me a snowflake but I don't know what that means. Put ice in the thing? I dunno... screw it. I'm buying a Honda. I know they are better.
I only had to have the frame welded twice on my last one after 5000 miles. Way better than every 300. Screw you Harley.
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#1546
09-08-2017, 04:31 PM
Road Master
Has anyone checked into converting to a cable? Initially I figured going hydraulic had advantages, but I'm beginning to wonder. Cables last much longer than they used to it seems, and usually they'll give you some warning before failing. And obviously they're not subject to creating the migration issue we're having.
Just a suggestion.
Just a suggestion.
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ocezam (09-08-2017)
#1547
09-08-2017, 04:40 PM
#1549
09-08-2017, 07:03 PM
Outstanding HDF Member
Geez
The trans main shaft is hollow and used for two things....
One, the clutch pushrod travels between the clutch cable/hydraulic actuator under the trans side cover to the the clutch in the primary, via this hollow shaft.
Two, the shaft is not sealed. It has a secondary job of allowing the pressure to equalize between the trans and primary, and vent out the trans vent, if necessary.
The only way you can lose 8oz of trans oil and have it show up in the primary, is via this shaft...... that much is agreed on. Now why/how it is doing this is an ongoing discussion...
The scary part of this issue is it is unknown how many bikes are affected. It is NOT an issue on all bikes. The transfer rate appears to be dependent on how hard you run the engine, higher rpms have been shown to increase transfer. If you don't look for it, most people won't know they have it...
For example; you ride easy between service visits. You may only have 2-3oz of transfer. The service tech dumps old fluids, without ever checking levels first... and then fills both to proper levels. Even if they did notice the trans a couple ounces low, it would be no cause for concern and they certainly wouldn't look to see if it's in the trans....
Several dyno tuners have tuned bikes, and seen 10oz transferred during the tuning process. One posted that he tuned an '18 CVO Limited, and it transferred 10oz during the tune... so it seems it hasn't been fixed for the '18 models..
One, the clutch pushrod travels between the clutch cable/hydraulic actuator under the trans side cover to the the clutch in the primary, via this hollow shaft.
Two, the shaft is not sealed. It has a secondary job of allowing the pressure to equalize between the trans and primary, and vent out the trans vent, if necessary.
The only way you can lose 8oz of trans oil and have it show up in the primary, is via this shaft...... that much is agreed on. Now why/how it is doing this is an ongoing discussion...
The scary part of this issue is it is unknown how many bikes are affected. It is NOT an issue on all bikes. The transfer rate appears to be dependent on how hard you run the engine, higher rpms have been shown to increase transfer. If you don't look for it, most people won't know they have it...
For example; you ride easy between service visits. You may only have 2-3oz of transfer. The service tech dumps old fluids, without ever checking levels first... and then fills both to proper levels. Even if they did notice the trans a couple ounces low, it would be no cause for concern and they certainly wouldn't look to see if it's in the trans....
Several dyno tuners have tuned bikes, and seen 10oz transferred during the tuning process. One posted that he tuned an '18 CVO Limited, and it transferred 10oz during the tune... so it seems it hasn't been fixed for the '18 models..
#1550
09-08-2017, 07:34 PM
Tourer
Here is something i just noticed while dumping both fluids so I can add dye to the tranny before I take it to the dealer in a couple of weeks:
On my old bike, my wife's bike, and my buddy's bike, if I removed the primary plug without loosening the derby cover, the fluid would "glug going glug" out. On this bike, it came out in a steady stream like it was getting a vent from somewhere. Hmmmm.
On my old bike, my wife's bike, and my buddy's bike, if I removed the primary plug without loosening the derby cover, the fluid would "glug going glug" out. On this bike, it came out in a steady stream like it was getting a vent from somewhere. Hmmmm.