who's been having to add transmission fluid?
#1421
09-02-2017, 07:36 PM
Tourer
In my case I definitely trust my dealership. They have been extremely good to me and stood by me with MoCo. Fought for the first and second replacement 114 engines due to sumping issues at no charge (now on my 3rd engine which appears to be good at this point). Supported me in getting a free 7yr ESP including wheel & tire paid for by HD for my troubles. They took very precise measurements in measuring all oil in the crankcase to the exact ounce. And let me take all the pictures I wanted of the excess oil from the crankcase. In fact they encouraged me to take the pics. They've checked the tranny and primary fluids twice on my '17 CVO Limited and found them spot on. I had a slight shudder in the front brakes. Both rotors were out of spec. Neither the factory warranty or ESP covers rotors or pads since they are considered a wear item. Instead of charging me for new rotors, they comped the cost of the parts and labor to replace the rotors at no charge to me
Sorry if you've had a rotten experience with your dealership's service department but I've taken my business to this dealer for a decade and definitely trust them. I have complete confidence that there is NO fluid transferring between my tranny and primary.
How is it that after 142 pages of posts on the subject of transmission fluid migration, millions of miles ridden, guys on this thread checking their tranny fluid regularly, that there hasn't been a single report of a failed transmission or failed primary? Trying to understand how this could be so prevalent yet there is no Service Bulletin and no reports of a mechanical failure or breakdown. Makes no sense to me that such a serious issue could result in no reports of mechanical failures in the 2017 touring bikes.
The guys on this thread are checking their trans fluid on a regular basis but my guess is that 99% of new 2017 touring bike owners have NEVER checked their trans fluid level. If this fluid migration was causing a serious mechanical failure there would be 142 pages of "why did my Transmission fail". Why is there no thread on tranny or primary failures from this fluid migration??
Sorry if you've had a rotten experience with your dealership's service department but I've taken my business to this dealer for a decade and definitely trust them. I have complete confidence that there is NO fluid transferring between my tranny and primary.
How is it that after 142 pages of posts on the subject of transmission fluid migration, millions of miles ridden, guys on this thread checking their tranny fluid regularly, that there hasn't been a single report of a failed transmission or failed primary? Trying to understand how this could be so prevalent yet there is no Service Bulletin and no reports of a mechanical failure or breakdown. Makes no sense to me that such a serious issue could result in no reports of mechanical failures in the 2017 touring bikes.
The guys on this thread are checking their trans fluid on a regular basis but my guess is that 99% of new 2017 touring bike owners have NEVER checked their trans fluid level. If this fluid migration was causing a serious mechanical failure there would be 142 pages of "why did my Transmission fail". Why is there no thread on tranny or primary failures from this fluid migration??
#1423
09-02-2017, 09:27 PM
Road Master
But running the transmission this low probably isn't good for longevity.
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#1424
09-02-2017, 09:31 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
Trying to understand how this could be so prevalent yet there is no Service Bulletin and no reports of a mechanical failure or breakdown. Makes no sense to me that such a serious issue could result in no reports of mechanical failures in the 2017 touring bikes.
The guys on this thread are checking their trans fluid on a regular basis but my guess is that 99% of new 2017 touring bike owners have NEVER checked their trans fluid level. If this fluid migration was causing a serious mechanical failure there would be 142 pages of "why did my Transmission fail". Why is there no thread on tranny or primary failures from this fluid migration??
Their dealership dumps the oils, and refills... with the vast majority of bikes, NOBODY is bothering to check for a transfer issue....
There could be two, or there could be ten thousand.... bikes out there with the transfer issue that are blissfully unaware they have a problem, and ride in a way that it doesn't transfer enough oil to cause trans damage....
We may never know, but I suspect the Moco may know the answer, but I doubt they will ever announce it...
They will make running production changes to avoid the problem in the future and try to quietly fix those that bitch about their issue.... it would be a huge financial liability to alert those unaware of the problem, and then have to fix more bikes.....
If the problem caused people's bikes to eat transmissions under warranty, I believe this whole issue would have been resolved awhile ago...
I may get an M8 eventually, but my plans for one in Spring '18 have been put on hold indefinitely......
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#1425
09-02-2017, 09:37 PM
#1427
09-02-2017, 11:15 PM
#1428
09-03-2017, 09:15 AM
Road Master
We may never know, but I suspect the Moco may know the answer, but I doubt they will ever announce it...
They will make running production changes to avoid the problem in the future and try to quietly fix those that bitch about their issue.... it would be a huge financial liability to alert those unaware of the problem, and then have to fix more bikes.....
They will make running production changes to avoid the problem in the future and try to quietly fix those that bitch about their issue.... it would be a huge financial liability to alert those unaware of the problem, and then have to fix more bikes.....
Honestly this thread demonstrates how weak the internet really is in some cases. 143 pages. Nearly 1500 posts, and this issue is still easily ignored by the MoCo. Depressing.
#1429
09-03-2017, 12:21 PM
Road Master
Ozecam - I don't believe the moco is ignoring it for one moment. They're like CIA spooks, seeing much but speaking little. Look at how well HD keeps things under wraps until they're ready to go public; happens every year with the new bikes.
I'm convinced they're aware and are addressing the issue, but a fix has yet to be determined. Mr. Cole may just beat 'em to the punch! Maybe even Jason Ward; he's been too quiet for awhile now.
I'm convinced they're aware and are addressing the issue, but a fix has yet to be determined. Mr. Cole may just beat 'em to the punch! Maybe even Jason Ward; he's been too quiet for awhile now.