I agree but will add I don't think HD cares about patents, I know of 2 lawsuits they are in right now for patent infringement. They absolutely love to take other peoples design. I have no doubt that they are working on the problem, but I also have no doubt they are working just as hard monitoring these forums hoping someone publishes a solution.

 

Steve Cole, over 100 pages and 70000 views on this topic, on this forum alone is surely enough to catch the eye of the MoCo. I live in one of the most isolated cities on the planet, and my dealers are waiting for a tech bulletin from Harley. These guys have No idea about the problem, let alone how to solve it.
I wish I had as much influence as some of you folk. My bike cost a lot of money and I have a right to have these issues solved as do you good folk in the USA.
Steve, do you have an opinion on Darren's (sheffer) idea. Have you guys had a Chat?
Collaboration = a solution.

 

This is complete and utter bullpoop.. Not worth the time.. Look at what it takes to get a patent..

 

Personally, I have no idea. Just a thought. Do you Have a better idea, besides posting for free a fix that will have taken a lot of time and effort to develop? Just curious..

 

I'm noticing a pattern here as well. Manufacturing date doesn't seem to matter. I know there are quite a few people that aren't experiencing it either. I wonder why?

 

So, with all the extra oil oozing out of the derby cover is anyone having clutch engagement issues? While I think it's an issue and I'm more than positive HD is working on a solution, once a bulletin get's issued the bikes will get the fix whatever it is.

 

The best thing to do for now is if you have this issue or even think you do file a complaint here.
https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/

Also a complaint with the BBB wouldn't hurt either.

 

You can't adjust the hydraulic clutch.

 

The scope of this problem is pretty hard to determine... many assumptions are made, pro & con...

It would logical to assume that there are a certain number of people (we'll never know how many) who have the problem, but don't know they have the problem....

They either ride lower RPM and the oil transfer is minimal, so it's never noticed; they never check their trans oil between services & during service oils are just dumped, so it's not noticed; they check their trans oil but since they have their services done at a dealer, just blame the dealer for not filling the trans properly, bike gets serviced and the cycle repeats. Then there are the many, many HD bikes that get an annual service based on time, not on miles, they'll never notice. These are just a few of scenarios where someone could have oil transfer, but they and/or their dealers are totally oblivious to the issue.......

There are certainly several posters on two forums who are aware of the issue, check for it, and do not have it.... that's encouraging. we know not everyone is affected.....

This could be a problem with say 80%+ of M8s, but only 5% are being noticed and reported...... OR...... 90%+ may be OK and we just happen to be aware of all the problem bikes.... most likely somewhere in the middle, or one of the extremes, or........????

I'm sure this thought is not lost on the MoCo, as they try to balance fixing a serious issue and not wanting to have to fix almost every M8 sold....... I'm sure this has several people squirming and the less they say about it, the better it is for them...

 

I'm at 2K now on a twin-cooled version. Not using motor oil and so far no tranny migration. I'm checking regularly. I rode 200 miles today and will check when temp is ambient.
Your scenario is rational and logical, but could also be wrong.
Just saying.
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