need someone to talk me off a stage 2 ledge!
#12
02-26-2017, 08:44 AM
#14
02-26-2017, 11:33 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
just trying to be objective, give it a chance before throwing money at it..here's one of many comments from similar reviews
"HOLY S#*T, this thing is great. I’m sure you want to know how the 107” performed. Well, it rocks. The bike pulled hard and didn’t make me feel like I would instantly have to do engine upgrades to be happy. It pretty much felt like a 103” with cams, exhaust, high flow air cleaner, and a tune, but it was stone cold stock.Performance is great"
"HOLY S#*T, this thing is great. I’m sure you want to know how the 107” performed. Well, it rocks. The bike pulled hard and didn’t make me feel like I would instantly have to do engine upgrades to be happy. It pretty much felt like a 103” with cams, exhaust, high flow air cleaner, and a tune, but it was stone cold stock.Performance is great"
#15
02-26-2017, 12:08 PM
Stellar HDF Member
IMO, based on my riding style (<4000 most of the time) the torque cam upgrade was not worth my money because, while the "peak" torque went up a bit, there is a loss in lower rpm torque. The increase is mainly in the upper rpm area where I rarely ride.
I would wait for the TTS torque cam that beats the HD torque cam everywhere!
Bob
I would wait for the TTS torque cam that beats the HD torque cam everywhere!
Bob
#16
02-26-2017, 12:53 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
If you like the current power and spend most of the time in the lower Rs, stay with the stock cam. If you find the motor falling flat too soon go with the TQ cam.. Most of the tq in the tq cam is mid-range tho you will pick up a bit of HP up top also.. During the first 500 for me the motor felt fine but as I started to use all of the RPM range I found the stock cam lacking.
#17
02-26-2017, 01:05 PM
Club Member
can't answer your specific questions but I resisted the urge to do anything for similar concerns..I've always dreamed of just leaving a Harley engine stock and this time aside from Street Canons that's what I am committed to. After a 17 year Twin Cam run they came out with the best Touring motor in their history. I'm sticking with if it ain't broke don't fix it rather than if it ain't broke work on it until it is. Even after doing various stage performance upgrades in the past and enjoying them I always thought next one I'm leaving alone. I like the idea of not introducing change and possibly compromising the benefits and advantages of stock from fuel economy to reliability, etc. I've even left the OEM intake alone cuz I like the better protection it provides. Bike runs so good and has all the power I need or want. Now if I rode Two Up with a 300lb Mother In Law or someone everywhere then it would be more of a need.
Got a hot rod shovel if I feel the need to tweak off on something.
#18
02-26-2017, 02:41 PM
i already have stage I and all the bells and whistles leading up to a cam upgrade. I've done the V&H power dual headers, V&H slips ons, SE heavy breather, tuner, etc.. even did the fan assist cooler and apes since getting her back in Dec. (yes, winter has been pretty long and boring for me..) The stage II is about getting a bit more low end torque. bike runs strong but could use a bit more ooomph. Maybe it's the sport bike side of me that wants to resurrect. In retrospect I never was one to play it safe.. i'll stay as scheduled and do the cam torque upgrade this weekend. It's already paid for so might as well. will let you know how it goes. thanks again for the replies. much appreciated.
#19
02-26-2017, 02:43 PM
Stellar HDF Member
I'm going with a Stage 1, V&H power duals, 4.5 slip ons, and SE heavy breather that uses the stock cover. The dealer will use the pro street tuner which is EPA approved and finish up with the new SE real time tuner that uses wide ban 02 sensors to adjust the ECM on the fly. It think the new stock cover is the *****. When everyone has the 107 then I'll probably change my mind.
Keep the stock cam, engine mods like SE stage 2 kit are covered under original warranty, if done at time of delivery, but if you want an extended warranty then I think you have a problem.
Keep the stock cam, engine mods like SE stage 2 kit are covered under original warranty, if done at time of delivery, but if you want an extended warranty then I think you have a problem.
#20
02-26-2017, 04:45 PM
Seasoned HDF Member
If you like the current power and spend most of the time in the lower Rs, stay with the stock cam. If you find the motor falling flat too soon go with the TQ cam.. Most of the tq in the tq cam is mid-range tho you will pick up a bit of HP up top also.. During the first 500 for me the motor felt fine but as I started to use all of the RPM range I found the stock cam lacking.
Last edited by mjwebb; 02-26-2017 at 04:50 PM.