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Old 04-07-2007 | 03:08 PM
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Just got home from the dyno tuning. Starting numbers were 65.49 HP & 76.23 torque. Air/Fuel was varing around 13.8. Bearing in mind that I had already installed slip-on mufflers w/ 2" baffles , SE AC, & SERT map for stage I w/ O2 bias maxed out before the tuning, I thought these numbers would have been higher. Final numbers were 76.57 HP & 90.77 torque. Air/Fuel graph looks basically flat at about 13.2 & dips slightly under 13above 5700 rpm. That's a 17% increase in HP & 19% increase in torque. I'm not sure how my final numbers compare to the norm but the % increase seems well worth the dyno cost.
I may have mentioned that I had to travel a little distance to this tuner & due to the weathers temperature drop, I trailered the bike. I'll let you guys know how it performs as soon as it warms up a little later today.
I do want to say that this dealer I went to in Huntsville, AL was a class act. They weren't the largest I have been in but they were the most professional. They even re-installed the slip-on mufflers to put a silicone seal in the connection. The tuner, Alan, said a poor seal there would affect VE values. I also got a complementary "hog wash". They detailed the biketo be as clean as the new models on the showroom floor.
 
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Old 04-07-2007 | 03:52 PM
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So . . .
Actual Torque at the rear weal WITH the SE A/C and SERT map was 76.23?
13lbs less than the advertised stock numbers, without the SE A/C?
Are they taking the 'advertised' numbers from the same guy Jack got his beans from??
Yeesh
 
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Old 04-08-2007 | 05:12 PM
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Finally got to try her out this AM. It behaves like a different engine. Lugging in sixth gear is gone along with the deceleration popping. Probably just me but I didn't hear the fifth gear whine either. This is what it should have been off the showroom floor.
 
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Old 04-08-2007 | 08:37 PM
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Good to hear it went well and the outcome is phenomenal! Seems like the pre-tuned run was "choked down" with just a canned map/02 bias maxed setting, and the efficacy of the tuning was displayed with the big HP/TQincrease.[sm=smiley20.gif]

Nothing like a finely tuned machine.

BTW: whichmap #were you running pre-dyno. Notjustthe calibration #, but the actual map itself.
 
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Old 04-08-2007 | 09:24 PM
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It was 159AE003 (#67) with the only modification being the 02 bias maxed out.
 
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Old 04-08-2007 | 09:47 PM
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It was 159AE003 (#67) with the only modification being the 02 bias maxed out.
Interesting, the pre-"J" CD map is 159AE003-A0

the "J" CD map is 159AE003-A
1

Wonder what the difference is/was between these 2 maps?

Stock 96in Softail #'s are ~68HP/83TQ

Stage I 96in Softail #'s are ~81HP/96TQ

Your pre-tune Stage I #'s certainly spell out the necessity for a dyno tune and the deficiency a canned map has to offer without the aforementioned dyno.[&:]
 
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Old 04-09-2007 | 07:09 AM
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THe difference between A0 & A1 is probably the torque smoothing. My exhaust is just "slip-ons", a full pipe swapout might up the numbers a little.
 
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Old 04-09-2007 | 11:54 AM
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It was 159AE003 (#67) with the only modification being the 02 bias maxed out.
Did you run your bike with 159AE003 straightoff the CD for a while andthen maxthe CLB, if socould you feel a difference. Ordid you max them right away andare they still Maxed out after they tuned it? The reason I ask is I've tried Maxing my CBL and the bike feels like its fat.....runs best@650mv-750mv. Just curious becauseyour final numbers look great,but your intial touque seemslow for a stage 1 with a canned map.
 
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Old 04-09-2007 | 01:06 PM
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Did you run your bike with 159AE003 straightoff the CD for a while andthen maxthe CLB, if socould you feel a difference. Ordid you max them right away andare they still Maxed out after they tuned it? The reason I ask is I've tried Maxing my CBL and the bike feels like its fat.....runs best@650mv-750mv. Just curious becauseyour final numbers look great,but your intial touque seemslow for a stage 1 with a canned map.
Same question here, what does your closed loop bias table look like after tuning? And did you start with the 159AE003-A0 or the 159AE003-A1?
I'm running the A1 map in mine and it feels really good. But if I could pick another 14 lb-ft of torque, I'd be so happy I don't know what I'd do.
 
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Old 04-09-2007 | 08:43 PM
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I started out with the A0 map & later maxed out the 02 bias. There seemed to be a noticable difference and I aquired a little decel popping. Nothing too obnoxious though. I got a "J" CD & immediately loaded the A1 map with the 02 bias maxed out. I couldn't tell that anything changed. Yeah, I got a copy of the map file they put in and it has the 02 bias maxed out. I've attached a scan of the dyno runs.


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It was 159AE003 (#67) with the only modification being the 02 bias maxed out.
Did you run your bike with 159AE003 straightoff the CD for a while andthen maxthe CLB, if socould you feel a difference. Ordid you max them right away andare they still Maxed out after they tuned it? The reason I ask is I've tried Maxing my CBL and the bike feels like its fat.....runs best@650mv-750mv. Just curious becauseyour final numbers look great,but your intial touque seemslow for a stage 1 with a canned map.
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