Power Vision Information Thread
#8391
Just an FYI that Dynojet has been building on the Power Vision FAQ section of their website with enhanced information that PV users should find helpful http://dynojet.com/powervision/powervision-faqs.aspx#6c
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#8392
Hello all...I was wondering how this log & tune looks in MLV? I have no real issues or problems. It pulls hard, it has just the right amount of decel rumble and popping (I like it), negligible knock (nothing audible), and heat is fine. Just a general curiosity...if I could fix any one thing, it would be a tiny bit better eco in the crusing ranges (65-75mph). Again, just a general curiosity...
Thanks all....as always, love reading this forum thread!
Glen
Thanks all....as always, love reading this forum thread!
Glen
Here is a MLV screenshot of the closed loop corrections from the log you posted, I have noted your current closed loop area in red. The scale on the Y axis represents the +/- % of the closed loop integrator. This area of your tune is pretty solid
#8393
Thanks all. I will do this today...Oddly enough, the bike runs very well...pulls really strong everywhere...Wouldnt it run badly if it was so far out of tune? Merely asking..As for mods, stock A/C for 2007 SERK, added V&H Cruiser Slash Cut Rounds w/ stock V&H baffle. I did install Fulsac's true dual conversion kit. Other than GMR lifters and S&S Quickie PRs...nothing.
Glen
Glen
Last edited by adkg12; 03-28-2016 at 03:05 PM.
#8394
Thanks all. I will do this today...Oddly enough, the bike runs very well...pulls really strong everywhere...Wouldnt it run badly if it was so far out of tune? Merely asking..As for mods, stock A/C for 2007 SERK, added V&H Cruiser Slash Cut Rounds w/ stock V&H baffle. I did install Fulsac's true dual conversion kit. Other than GMR lifters and S&S Quickie PRs...nothing.
Glen
Glen
#8395
Ah I see...
So I took your advice and ran AT on my tune but I actually did it 4 times. It did in fact make some changes. Not too many, but the few it made did in fact smooth out the "pull". I am attaching the original tune, the after AT tune and the after AT log. It did increase my decel rumble to more rumble and additional pop...but I can fix that easy enough. I like a little rumble and pop..call me crazy.. ! I am thinking that maybe extending the length of the AFR CL range into 60KPa @ 2500-3000Rpm to experiment with the eco goal. I would LIKE to see 40mpg or so @ 65-70mph...if that isnt too realistic of course, without much sacrifice to my low-speed, low gear, roll on the throttle hard, power. If that makes sense. Anyway, here ya go..
Glen
PS. Feel free to email me if you prefer. My email is my screen name here, at the gmail
Thanks
Glen
So I took your advice and ran AT on my tune but I actually did it 4 times. It did in fact make some changes. Not too many, but the few it made did in fact smooth out the "pull". I am attaching the original tune, the after AT tune and the after AT log. It did increase my decel rumble to more rumble and additional pop...but I can fix that easy enough. I like a little rumble and pop..call me crazy.. ! I am thinking that maybe extending the length of the AFR CL range into 60KPa @ 2500-3000Rpm to experiment with the eco goal. I would LIKE to see 40mpg or so @ 65-70mph...if that isnt too realistic of course, without much sacrifice to my low-speed, low gear, roll on the throttle hard, power. If that makes sense. Anyway, here ya go..
Glen
PS. Feel free to email me if you prefer. My email is my screen name here, at the gmail
Thanks
Glen
#8396
Ah I see...
So I took your advice and ran AT on my tune but I actually did it 4 times. It did in fact make some changes. Not too many, but the few it made did in fact smooth out the "pull". I am attaching the original tune, the after AT tune and the after AT log. It did increase my decel rumble to more rumble and additional pop...but I can fix that easy enough. I like a little rumble and pop..call me crazy.. ! I am thinking that maybe extending the length of the AFR CL range into 60KPa @ 2500-3000Rpm to experiment with the eco goal. I would LIKE to see 40mpg or so @ 65-70mph...if that isnt too realistic of course, without much sacrifice to my low-speed, low gear, roll on the throttle hard, power. If that makes sense. Anyway, here ya go..
Glen
PS. Feel free to email me if you prefer. My email is my screen name here, at the gmail
Thanks
Glen
So I took your advice and ran AT on my tune but I actually did it 4 times. It did in fact make some changes. Not too many, but the few it made did in fact smooth out the "pull". I am attaching the original tune, the after AT tune and the after AT log. It did increase my decel rumble to more rumble and additional pop...but I can fix that easy enough. I like a little rumble and pop..call me crazy.. ! I am thinking that maybe extending the length of the AFR CL range into 60KPa @ 2500-3000Rpm to experiment with the eco goal. I would LIKE to see 40mpg or so @ 65-70mph...if that isnt too realistic of course, without much sacrifice to my low-speed, low gear, roll on the throttle hard, power. If that makes sense. Anyway, here ya go..
Glen
PS. Feel free to email me if you prefer. My email is my screen name here, at the gmail
Thanks
Glen
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oldhippie (03-30-2016)
#8397
#8398
If you pull the original poster's log you will see that his AFR table was set to 13.0 to 13.5 (open loop) in the cruise KPa ranges. I cannot see the corrected MAP but I'm guessing that when FM said that he "broadened the close loop" he put the MAP in the closed loop (14.6) in the cruise range to help with fuel economy.
Have you added anything to the bike or is it stock? What kind of mileage are you getting now?
I'd caution you before you start fiddle farting around with the AFR table to make sure you have mapped your VE tables and that they are correct. Note that he made changes to this guy's VE tables, probably based on what he saw with the CLI in this guy's log.
Last edited by oleboy; 03-31-2016 at 04:07 AM.
#8399
bike has Screamin eagle AC jackpot 2/1/2 head pipe and JPE slip ons. Ive done some auto tuning and have gotten my VEs close very minor changes on the last few auto tune runs. Have gotten pretty much all of my timing spot on. Bike gets around 36 to 37 cruising between 80 and 85 which isnt terrible but i was hoping to hit 40. the areas I cruise in are set to 14.4 AFR right now, would changing those areas up to 14.68 maybe get me a little closer. Bike also seems to really come alive right at 3k rpms but im guessing thats just the stock cams in the rushmore bike waking up there.
#8400
bike has Screamin eagle AC jackpot 2/1/2 head pipe and JPE slip ons. Ive done some auto tuning and have gotten my VEs close very minor changes on the last few auto tune runs. Have gotten pretty much all of my timing spot on. Bike gets around 36 to 37 cruising between 80 and 85 which isnt terrible but i was hoping to hit 40. the areas I cruise in are set to 14.4 AFR right now, would changing those areas up to 14.68 maybe get me a little closer. Bike also seems to really come alive right at 3k rpms but im guessing thats just the stock cams in the rushmore bike waking up there.
Are you using the PV to calculate your MPG or are you calculating it manually using your odometer and the gallons per the pump? If you are using the PV to do it, I would calculate it manually a couple of times and see if there is a difference.
Since you seem to have your VE tables mapped pretty good, I would post a picture of your AFR table. There are allot of professional tuners (I'm not one) on this site that could probably look at your table and offer some help or suggestions.
Just curious, what method did you use to adjust your spark tables? I saw the PV had a AT feature to adjust them however I haven't used it. They recommended that you get the mapping for the VE tables correct before doing so. I'm still fooling around with that.